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GWR 17410 'Toad' 20T Goods Brake Van

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Restoration and Sanding gear update
[[File: {{Infobox wagon|image = GWR_17410_20150320.jpg |thumb|200px|right| caption = GWR Toad Brake Van 17410]]|construc = GWR Swindon|status = Under restoration|wagno = 17410|othernos = |designed = |wagtype = Brake van|telcode = Toad|brakes = Vacuum fitted|built = 1940|years1 = 1970|events1 = Entered preservation on SVR|years2 = 2016|events2 = Restoration begun|years3 = |events3 = |years4 = |events4 = |years5 = |events5 = |years6 = |events6 = }}20 ton 'Toad' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWR stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When An original stencil on an internal wall suggests that its first allocation was to Cardiff, but when last in SVR service it was lettered in late GWR style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU".Early in its life the sanding gear was removed, and its place was taken by additional ballast. It is believed that the additional adhesion weight would have been of more use to a fitted brake van. Many other preserved vac. fitted Toads have undergone the same modification.
==17140 in preservation==It arrived on the SVR in November 1970, purchased by a group of working members known as the 17410 Fund, and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PW Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PW requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the [[The LNER Carriage Group|LNER Carriage Group]], started. A new pair of veranda side doors have been made, In early 2016 the 17410 Fund transferred ownership to the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] for restoration and replacement opening window frames are under constructioncontinued preservation on the SVR. <ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410], dated 1 September 2015, accessed 10 November 2015</ref> The layers of paint were removed from van is known to many on the interior, when it was found that its first, "SVR as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stenciled opposite the guardDon Wilcox's seat in pink lettering, with the word toad"CARDIFF" (presumably . Once restored its first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BR) interior finish was off white (ivory) hoped to use it as a fitted brake van on demonstration freight trains, filming and photo charters, and bauxite with a white ceilingfor brake van rides, for which it will be most suitable.
The sanding gear is currently missing===2015 restoration=== Much progress with its restoration has been made, the continued rate of which will depend largely on the raising of funds for materials. A new pair of veranda side doors and replacement opening window frames have been made, and the GWR drawing has been locatedend hatch restored. It appears The layers of paint were removed from the interior, when it was found that several other groups are short of sanding gear for their Toadsits first, "as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stenciled opposite the guard's seat in pink lettering, with the word "CARDIFF" (presumably its hoped to join first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BR) interior finish was off white (ivory) and bauxite with them in a scheme to construct a batchwhite ceiling. Regular progress reports and detailed pictures are posted on [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410prog2016.html LNER(SVR)Coach Fund Toad Progress Page]
It is intended Much of the steelwork, the entire wooden floor and most of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing. The tyres need to restore it be turned to as near original condition as reasonably possibleremove flats. Vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and in GWR livery, but BR bauxite has not been ruled out as a possibility for the futureroof canvass will be essential.
Much progress It is intended to restore it to as near original condition as reasonably possible, and in GWR livery, but BR bauxite has recently not been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising ruled out as a possibility for materials. Much of the steelwork, the wooden floor and much of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing, whilst tyres, vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essentialfuture.
As During the summer/autumn of July 2016, the vacuum brake cylinder and handbrake pedestal were removed to safe storage and the rotten steel veranda sides and underfloor platework which supported the sandboxes, vac cylinder and handbrake pedestal had been were consigned to the scrapheap, plywood templates made, and prices were being sought for their replacement. By September of that year a A considerable amount of (very necessary) weld repair had been was then carried out by a skilled volunteer on the exposed section of underframe, ballast bins and supporting steelworkbases of the cabin and side door posts.<ref>[http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-wagons-2016.631598/page-5 NatPres forum SVR Wagons Thread]</ref><ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410prog2016.html 17410 restoration updates on www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk]</ref> A heavy job completed in early October was the emptying, cleaning, strengthening, painting and re-filling of all eight underfloor ballast bins.
In early New veranda side and end plates,underfloor support plates, kerb rails and corner posts were made and fitted by Mawley Engineering Ltd between 18-20 October 2016 the 17410 Fund transferred ownership to replace the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] for restoration and continued preservation on thoroughly rotten originals. However the SVR.<ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410]very prominent waist level angle irons, dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015</ref> The van is known to many on the SVR as two vertical "Don Wilcox's toadT". Once restored its hoped to use it as a fitted brake van on demonstration freight trainssections at the end, filming and photo charters, the two side door slam posts were in good condition and have been refurbished and for brake van ridesre-used. The new structure was seal welded to prolong its life expectancy, but volunteers have commenced the time consuming job of drilling the new steelwork for snap head rivets which it will be most suitable.<ref>[http://wwwmaintain the authentic look.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-wagons-2016.631598/page-3 NatPres forum SVR Wagons Thread]</ref>
Fortunately the steelwork at the van sides and end was mostly restorable, and after emptying many broken drawhooks and worn out brake blocks from the sandboxes and ballast bin (under the end windows and hatch), the rust and life expired end section of kerb rail were removed. The floor plate (and hence the end of the body) had been lifted about half an inch by rust scale which was removed prior to the said plate being seam welded to the headstock to prevent a repetition. A replacement kerb rail and floor strengthening angle iron were also welded in place, and the ballast replaced. The steel lower van sides were starting to suffer from rust due to water ingress through the failed seals. A new sealing system is being tried, involving steel angle seam welded to the top inside edge of the original steel plates. It is invisible, saves much "original fabric", and hopefully will improve 17410's longevity. In May 2017 the new floor was installed; made from 3" thick Douglas Fir tongue and groove boards. The planking for the side and roof repairs arrived later that month. By September 2017 both sides and ends had been refurbished with new Douglas Fir planks.  To finance the restoration The SVR Charitable Trust is seeking donations and component sponsorship, both of which can be Gift Aided. A form can be accessed by clicking on the link [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/Donations_and_Gift_aid_TOAD_17410_form.pdf SVR Charitable Trust TOAD Donation Form].Thank you. ==Gallery==<gallery>Underfloor_bin_1.JPG |Ballast bin17410_CARDIFF.JPG |17410 CARDIFF on internal wallRefurbished_seat.jpg |Refurbished Guard's seatBalcony_230816_small.jpg | Dismantled Balcony in September 2016 Toad_New_side_and_end.jpg |New sides and end to the veranda.Toad_inside_new_floor_plates.jpg |New underfloor plates.Toad_refurbished_door_pillars.jpg |Refurbished Side Door Pillar.17410_veranda_new_side_door.jpg |Newly constructed side door in position.Seen here before the new side panels were fitted.Toad_Handbrake.jpg | Handbrake pillar and sandbox corner brackets.Further_welding_and_straightening.jpg | New side panel is now seal welded to kerb rail.Side_doors_now_close.jpg | The new side doors have been made to close correctly.Floor_plate_MC.jpg | At the van end the rust under the floor plate has been cleaned out, and the plate seam welded in its correct position.17410_side_water_excluder.jpg| Two steel strips riveted to the top of the lower van sides were meant to keep them rigid and exclude water. After 70 years they were doing neither. </gallery> ==See Alsoalso==[[Goods Wagons | List of goods wagons]]<br>[[Rolling stock currently under restoration]]
==References==
[http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on the Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey]<br>
SVR Stock Book Eighth Edition
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==Links==
[http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org]<br>
[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410.html GWR Toad 17410 Restoration pageon www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk
[[Category: Rolling stock owned by The SVR Charitable Trust]]
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