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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

We changed :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Capcha question Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to a dynamic one SVR Live that "Information which should have been harder is publicly accessible for spambots to crack.<br>It wasnenthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms't working as well as hoped, so I have now reworded the question to see if that's any better.<br>I believe it's possible to create different user groups with different posting rights, and so we could, for example move all the proven genuine contributors to a on."trusted" group so that they donHowever I can't have see photography policy on the new version, or on the inconvenience of having to solve a little puzzle every time SVR website either. Any idea where they want to make an edit. I'll look in to that later.<br>would be found these days?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:1350, 2 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Within an hour of making ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the above changes, we had a load more spam.<br>It seems old site seemed to follow a set pattern be horribly out of creating a new account date, and then a User Page, so I have disabled upon enquiring directly with the ability for the default user groupSVR on Facebook, "User", to create pages and manually added all the genuine contributors to a new User Group "Trustworthy".<br>If response I have missed you out, or if you have any other problems, you should still be able to edit this page, so either reply here, email got gave methe impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, or post on the forum or Facebook page and I'll sort rather than advertising it out.<br>online? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1209:5152, 2 March 2015 5 January 2017 (UTC)

I've moved all :In terms of setting it up, the known genuine contributors to unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a "Trustworthy" user group and removed page creation rights from all othersphotography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.<br>They're still getting through though somehow, so I have just disabled the ability to write directly to the APIhtm here].<br>I'm not too sure what this means myself, but I think it's a way There may be some good ideas to bypass the normal page creation method and, as I can't see any legitimate reason to use be had from it, and there was an option to disable it, that's what I've done.<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1716:0755, 3 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

: :Thank you. A job for when I suspect that that is how they were getting through without page creation rights - basically it means sending the command to create a page directly without loading up the "Creating page..." form first.have some time :)--[[User:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|WillSaltPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 2212:1728, 3 March 2015 18 January 2017 (UTC)

:::As a low grade entry point I note that have added to the bots seem [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page some basic details with an idea to be registering, but not actually making any edits currently - am I right to think that? add a simple [[From The last time that I can see a spam Window]] type guide page *created* is the 27th of Febwhen locations are populated. I've also fiddled with the settings a bit moreWhat do people think?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, and it definitely should be only allowing users with confirmed emails to edit/create/whatever now 11 February 2018 (plus the Trustworthy group, of courseUTC).

::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be good to illustrate each page with a photo taken from that location as well. --[[User:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|Danny252Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:0234, 4 March 2015 12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The pattern has changed slightly. exception would be for [[The spammers Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no longer create their own user equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, they create but it would be a separate major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page complete with spam title.<br>, and allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)I::::If you've asked for advice on re eager, go ahead - just look how the [httpshttp://www.mediawikisvrwiki.orgcom/wikiversion1241/Project:Support_desk#xindex.24wgGroupPermissions_not_preventing_spammers_creating_new_pages_54546 php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the Mediawiki support desk] and got some interestSVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but not a solution yet.<br>It looks like my next step I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to work out how to access the access logLittle Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... I had a quick look earlier--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, but it's not as simple 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as I hoped. I'll put a bit more time in static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it laterwasn't steamed until 1992.<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 13:10:43, 4 March 2015 19 January 2017 (UTC)

==Stourport and Tenbury branchesBug reports=====Navbox error===I'm seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the carriage and loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the administrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page names to dates and vice versa. It should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Would ===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it be more would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to refer read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to these have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the Stourport Line page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and Wyre Forest Line error. I've asked for help on the map [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and alter Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page titles to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and redirects miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to suiteach page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

:My inclination would be I thought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not to bother (to the casual SVR visitorlogged in, both are branches off the line they are on)even though a page exists for June 25. The former was simply Not sure if it is a continuation of the old SVR rather than a line in itself. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest Linecoincidence, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours the former but I'd be interested to dig out some original sources to see what the commonest usage home page was at the timelast edited on June 20. I don't think anyone browsing Has anything changed in the wiki will get too confused as it stands.back end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1819:3258, 6 February 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

OK::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, I've changed the link next and previous page links on the map to point to Wyre Forest Line'August 4' and other days works fine. When I log in they stop working, while keeping "Tenbury Branch" on the map itselfreplaced by a grey box with a dash in. As Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the Wyre Forest Line article says, most Kidderminster to Bewdley trains continued towards Tenbury, same and if so if anything, the Bridgnorth line was the branch. However, going by the fact that the disused line branches away at 90 degrees from the currently used lineany idea why? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:37, it seems more intuitive to refer to it as the branch in a modern context.4 August 2017 (UTC)

==Logo==Would it be :::It took a good idea to have a suitable SVR image or logo on bit of trial and error, but I've finally got the main pagePrevious & Next links working. For a visitor seeing It turns out it needs spaces either side of the page + & - signs when searching for the first time, it would give them some Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea what why it was all about. Yesworked when logged out, but not when logged in, I know or why it should be obviousused to work and then stopped working, butit works now.I'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though.It looks like we need a bot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, but creating a bot is beyond me at the moment.... --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 09:44, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

::::Thanks - I'll keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to it.--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0005:0951, 13 January 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I've : For completeness, this issue has been thinking "solved" through the same (I just mentioned it in one use of the forum threads). I guess the main question is whether the SVR would be happy with us using its logo - itSvrwikibot, per Graham's starting to sound like we'll need to get in contact with the office at some point on a few of these things. If they decide notsuggestion --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:07, does someone feel suitably arty?30 October 2017 (UTC)

As of today it's bringing up the page for February 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC):It's been broken for a while now. Danny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and once it does then the 'on this day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link!) I don't know to restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with access to the back end and a bit of knowledge. Maybe Graham or Will could have a look at some point? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 0915:2337, 13 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps ===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in , for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of the content being not secure and is referring to something in version 1241 which was the meanwhile we should've adopted version before the SVR Online logohttps upgrade. Also; starting to add headings here to separate topicsHappens in both Chrome and IE. It loads fine when logged in, so I hope you're assume it may be another caching issue. Did we have a back end utility for refreshing all OK with this. the pages and if so, could one of the admins run it? --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0917:3953, 1 February 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)

: I emailed marketing@svrlive.com on 16th January to ask permission to use wasn't getting a secure content warning, but the official SVR logopage wasn't loading correctly for me either. I havencan't heard back yet, so say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've gone fixed that page manually, and used it anyway. If I get think I found a threatening letter from their solicitorsscript I can set to run every so often to clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, I'll change it back again. can you check them now? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0716:5627, 2 February 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better! ::I selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot I can add on the diagnostices, except:::*IE shows a text only page, and it includes a line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the link takes you to the old page on the non-secure site. It also shows a box at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box. ::--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0822:0500, 2 February 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We:::I get the same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they'll probably spend a lot of time providing info about re still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the SVR, but we also need to show where it text is for people who come across this wiki & decide usually hidden by the railway might be worth a visit. Sopage style, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding a suitable size image of and the fact the UK that can be used, with a highlighted area showing exactly where page isn't loading the Railway style (or any pictures) is, then showing an enlargement why that occurs. I've reset some more of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course cache settings, which seems to have fixed it. I don't understand some of the railwaythis dark voodoo...--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 18:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I've noticed that from time to time the Wiki is logging me off in mid-edit. With a normal log in, my status is changed to logged out (ie the top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of course I can't save the page. If I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I get the message ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. You might have been logged out.'' Abandoning the edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to log out and in again. Is there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1116:3920, 13 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

On ===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the subject date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], it appears that recent versions of maps, IMediaWiki have removed the signature button that used to be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages. There is a '''ve adapted the map at [https://enwww.wikipediamediawiki.org/wiki/TemplateManual:Severn_Valley_Railway_map$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here] ''' which allows the button to only show as much be added back in specific pages. Could one of the SVR as admins see if it is currently possible to add this configuration variable so the button can be put back in use. It works OK on Query Corner? --[[httpsUser://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin|Robin]] ([[Usertalk:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandboxRobin|talk]], but not here http) 20://www.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>I gather I need to import the template that the map is based on58, but I can't find instructions on how to do that.<br>29 November 2018 (UTC)I was going to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map and create a more detailed map, showing more features as well:Done.<br>Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create the maps some other way?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:4200, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, 14 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)

===Service Unavailable message===While I was looking on 'm in the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same Bug reports page, then thought I would do 'm seeing a tracing message from a map & then create my own simple map from that - then scan & upload it. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead of doing other things!! In answer to your question, I don't know how to edit that template to how you want it. May be better to draw a new version? [[User:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk:Sharpo|talk]]) 11time as follows:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I think the main issue Service Unavailable<br> The server is that the map requires a standard set of images (about 3000!) that exist on Wikipedia, which you can tile together temporarily unable to service your request due to show the layout (emaintenance downtime or capacity problems.gPlease try again later. plain track<br> Additionally, station, disused station, and so on), as well as all the templates it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it over, but I don't know if it would be a good idea 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively use an ErrorDocument to copy handle the whole lot over with a lot of redundant bits, but with the flexibility to make more in futurerequest.

It is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes' but occasionally when accessing a normal page. Been happening for a couple of months now. Another one for Graham or Will to have a look at if possible? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1215:1541, 14 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I was hoping it would be possible to import the template and just those icons used as it's a handy way of linking directly to stations on the line directly from the map.I was then going to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etc. with a link to each.Maybe I'm asking too much and it would be best to stick to a normal image file of a map.--[[== User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 12:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)permissions ==

I remember years ago using some free software 've modified the user permissions so that allowed me to add links from a word or words pasted into an image on my sitenew users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". There may be something similar for a wiki if you have time to try & search for it. This was the sort of thing I just found after it a bit odd that having created a searchnew user, but not within I couldn't edit my own user page... Given that spambots are a wiki non- http://wwwissue now, hopefully we'll be ok.onextrapixel.com/examples/image-map/-[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Wow, took me a few hours to understand it, but I have learnt how to create more than one link from within 'm playing around with making an image within a wiki. My own wiki test included 2 locos in a photo & moving the cursor "svrwikibot", mainly to either of do the locos would give a link for front page update that locoRobin currently does. I've gone with the [[Userhttps:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sharpo|talk]Pywikibot Pywikibot]framework, because a) 21:40, 14 January 2015 (UTCI can code Python and b)it works.

I've been spending far too long on this as wellIf anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to do, but I've finally got therelet me know.<br>Click on the town names on the --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[Map User talk:Danny252| Maptalk]] .<br>) 09:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC)It takes a bit of trial and error to get the box coordinates in the right place: Alright, but I think this is a better than the standard route map as hold your breath - if it allows linking of nearby features of interest's working, such as the Engine Housebot will now update the main page comment at 5am BST (4am GMT) daily... --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 10:01:46, 15 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Some good work ::If therewas a 'like' button on here, I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it to carry out. The main thing now is Most of the bot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></nowiki> to get bullet format and so on. Not a suitable map particular priority here in my view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is caused by the conflict with the terminology add- the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkward, given on (whose name I forget). Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer to Bewdley Station than Kidder! one? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 14:10:14, 15 January 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)

::: The addon in question is "Lingo". I like remember hoping/expecting the map on the front pagesoftware update earlier this year would fix it. Would However, it be worth putting on each of didn't, and at the time I did put in a report about the station pages to show their positioning on issue still being present. Looking back at the SVR?bug report, there's been no response or fix yet. --[[User:Brick60000Danny252|Brick60000Danny252]] ([[User talk:Brick60000Danny252|talk]]) 1608:1738, 16 January 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Up ::A small update to now, everyone's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There haven't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things say that the bot seems to a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OKworking away quite happily, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding and on the maps and logo? few occasions I just went ahead and did it've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have a picture on the front page? How do we pick one?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0814:4304, 31 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

If you decide to have a picture :Page history suggests the bot last updated on the front page, keep it interesting by changing it every week. Otherwise, once this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people aren't likely to look at it very often. 7 April? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1323:4634, 31 January 2015 11 April 2018 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think it is an improvement, carry on and add/edit as necessary which is the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays things. Worth adding a note in :Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the summary if comment is requiredlogin details, eg if I had a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload or else that it and say “shall we try this instead?”somehow forgot how to login.--[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1709:3229, 31 January 2015 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I:Message for Graham in Dan've "protected" s absence. Just noticed the front pageBot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, logo and maps the On this day link goes to prevent any malicious edits. We haven't had much spam yet, but there was the possibility that someone could alter last day the front page to something unwanted. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>I created was updated rather than the logo in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for the chocolate & creamcurrent day. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got the correct colour codes, I'll do a new one.<br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>There's a random image extension for wikimedia which can It may be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profile, taking up the full width of the page, coincidence but only a couple of lines worth of depthboth times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage set. Worth Could you have a trylook please?<br>TIA. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0910:2742, 1 February 2015 April 2020 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts ===Railway Heritage Register links update===The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on picturesvintagecarriagestrust.org, following but are permanently moving to a revisit to Festipedianew host on 9 April.:They have From a picture of quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the month same on the front pageold and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. Would There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a reasonable frequency to adopt, especially as great help if these changes could be done by the mods would presumably have to change it?bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3:They also have a lot of historical photos replace ''from the collection', especially on the loco pagesvintagecarriagestrust. Does the SVR have a similar collection (Kidderminster org''' by '''on Railway Museum?) Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and if so2 should fix the relevant URLs, is anyone on speaking terms with and step 3 the owner(s) who could broach link wording for at least the subject majority of adding some here? Particularly the SVR links. There are links in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any a number of our different areas including current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservationformer carriages and wagons etc.<br>Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1217:5223, 2 27 February 2015 2019 (UTC)

==Changes needed pleaseMobile view ==A section :I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the only method of navigating to other history pages. It should be possible to note any amendments needed on this create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the attention next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the administratorsarticles already featured. Suggest we delete items when done If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  == Schematic Map == I've created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the list currentname as consistently used in SVR gala publications etc). I don't have the correct font to add any new text, ie "(Limited use)", but I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the additional text, unless Graham happens to read this and gets there first.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)