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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Some of you have noticed the nuisance spambots floating about - they don't seem to be anything but a nuisance right now, but they do rather clog up the recent edits list...== SVR photographic guide ==
This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo
As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.
Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)
We changed :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Capcha question Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to a dynamic one SVR Live that "Information which should have been harder is publicly accessible for spambots to crack.<br>It wasnenthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms't working as well as hoped, so I have now reworded the question to see if that's any better.<br>I believe it's possible to create different user groups with different posting rights, and so we could, for example move all the proven genuine contributors to a on."trusted" group so that they donHowever I can't have see photography policy on the new version, or on the inconvenience of having to solve a little puzzle every time SVR website either. Any idea where they want to make an edit. I'll look in to that later.<br>would be found these days?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:1350, 2 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)
==Stourport ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the old site seemed to be horribly out of date, and Tenbury branches==upon enquiring directly with the SVR on Facebook, the response I got gave me the impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, rather than advertising it online? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Would :In terms of setting it up, the unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a photography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.htm here]. There may be more correct some good ideas to refer to these as the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line on the map and alter the linksbe had from it.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:55, page titles and redirects to suit?4 January 2017 (UTC)
:My inclination would be not to bother (to the casual SVR visitor, both are branches off the line they are on):Thank you. The former was simply a continuation of the old SVR rather than a line in itself. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest Line, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours the former but A job for when I'd be interested to dig out have some original sources to see what the commonest usage was at the time. I don't think anyone browsing the wiki will get too confused as it stands.:)--[[User:RobinPatrick Hearn|RobinPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:RobinPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 1812:3228, 6 February 2015 18 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, :::As a low grade entry point I've changed the link on the map to point have added to Wyre Forest Line, while keeping "Tenbury Branch" on the map itself. As the Wyre Forest Line article says, most Kidderminster to [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley trains continued towards Tenbury, so if anything, the Bridgnorth line was the branch. However, going by the fact that the disused line branches away at 90 degrees from the currently used line, it seems more intuitive Airport]] page some basic details with an idea to refer to it as the branch in add a modern contextsimple [[From The Window]] type guide page when locations are populated.What do people think?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
==Logo==Would it ::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be a good idea to have a suitable SVR image or logo on the main illustrate each page. For with a visitor seeing the page for the first time, it would give them some idea what it was all aboutphoto taken from that location as well. Yes, I know it should be obvious--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:34, but...... 12 February 2018 (UTC)
==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 0013:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13 :10, 19 January 2015 2017 (UTC)
==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I've been thinking m seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the same (I just mentioned it in carriage and loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the forum threadsadministrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page names to dates and vice versa. I guess the main question is whether the SVR would It should be happy with us using its logo working again now. - it's starting to sound like we'll need to get in contact with the office at some point on a few of these things-[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks. If they decide not--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, does someone feel suitably arty?24 May 2017 (UTC)
===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency.--[[User:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|Danny252Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0916:2349, 13 January 2015 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps :I thought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in , even though a page exists for June 25. Not sure if it is a coincidence, but the meanwhile we should've adopted home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the SVR Online logo. Also; starting to add headings here to separate topics. I hope you're all OK with this. back end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0919:3958, 1 February 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I emailed marketing@svrlive::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'.com When logged out, the next and previous page links on 16th January to ask permission to use the official SVR logo. I haven't heard back yet, so IAugust 4've gone and used it anywayother days works fine. If When I get log in they stop working, replaced by a grey box with a threatening letter from their solicitorsdash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, I'll change it back again. any idea why? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0714:5637, 2 February 2015 4 August 2017 (UTC)
That logo :::It took a bit of trial and error, but I've finally got the Previous & Next links working. It turns out it needs spaces either side of the + & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, or why it used to work and then stopped working, but it works now. I'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though. It looks much better! like we need a bot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, but creating a bot is beyond me at the moment.--[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0809:0544, 2 February 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)
==Location==We::::Thanks - I'll probably spend a lot of time providing info about the SVR, but we also need keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to show where it is for people who come across this wiki & decide the railway might be worth a visit. So, for those arty people amongst us--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 05:51, how about finding a suitable size image of the UK that can be used, with a highlighted area showing exactly where the Railway is, then showing an enlargement of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of the railway.7 August 2017 (UTC)
: For completeness, this issue has been "solved" through the use of the Svrwikibot, per Graham's suggestion --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1114:3907, 13 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)
On the subject As of maps, Itoday it've adapted s bringing up the map at page for February 28th, in error --[[httpsUser://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_mapPatrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] to only show as much of the SVR as is currently in use. It works OK on ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usertalk:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandboxPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, but not here http7 March 2022 (UTC)://wwwIt's been broken for a while now.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>I gather I need Danny's Wikibot seems to import stop working after about 6 months, and once it does then the template that the map 'on this day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is based a change saved on, but the home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link!) I candon't find instructions on how know to do that.<br>I was going restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with access to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map back end and create a more detailed map, showing more features as wellbit of knowledge.<br>Is it worth persevering, Maybe Graham or would it just be easier to create the maps Will could have a look at some other waypoint?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1015:4237, 14 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)
===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I was looking on the internet yesterday 'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for suitable maps & saw that very same page, then thought I would do a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from that - then scan & upload itexample [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead reports part of doing other things!! In answer the content being not secure and is referring to your questionsomething in version 1241 which was the version before the https upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and IE. It loads fine when logged in, so I don't know how to edit that template to how you want assume itmay be another caching issue. May be better to draw Did we have a new versionback end utility for refreshing all the pages and if so, could one of the admins run it? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1117:0053, 14 January 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)
: I think the main issue is that the map requires wasn't getting a standard set of images (about 3000!) that exist on Wikipediasecure content warning, which you can tile together to show but the layout (epage wasn't loading correctly for me either.g. plain track, station, disused stationI can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that page manually, and so on), as well as all the templates it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it over, but I don't know if it would be think I found a good idea script I can set to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively run every so often to copy clear the whole lot over with a lot of redundant bitscache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 16:27, but with the flexibility to make more in future. 16 December 2017 (UTC)
::I selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot I can add on the diagnostices, except:::*IE shows a text only page, and it includes a line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the link takes you to the old page on the non-secure site. It also shows a box at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box. ::--[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1222:1500, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)
:::I was hoping it would be possible to import get the template and just those icons used same text-only page displayed as ityou get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn's a handy way of linking directly to stations on t work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the line directly from page isn't loading the mapstyle (or any pictures) is why that occurs.I was then going to create a 've reset some more detailed map showing all of the bridges etc. with a link cache settings, which seems to eachhave fixed it.Maybe Idon'm asking too much and it would be best to stick to a normal image file t understand some of a mapthis dark voodoo...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1218:5524, 14 January 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)
===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I remember years ago using some free software 've noticed that allowed from time to time the Wiki is logging me to add links from off in mid-edit. With a word or words pasted into an image on normal log in, my site. There may be something similar for a wiki if you have time status is changed to try & search for it. This was logged out (ie the sort top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of thing course I can't save the page. If I just found after a searchhave selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I get the message ''Sorry! We could not within process your edit due to a wiki - http://wwwloss of session data. You might have been logged out.onextrapixel'' Abandoning the edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to log out and in again.com/examples/imageIs there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--map/[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:20, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Back again===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], just found an example on a wiki, there is an image where you can click on it appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have removed the different people you can seesignature button that used to be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages. httpThere is a '''[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ExtensionManual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be added back in specific pages. Could one of the admins see if it is possible to add this configuration variable so the button can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:ImageMapGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1517:0953, 14 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Wow===Service Unavailable message===While I'm in the Bug reports page, took me I'm seeing a few hours to understand it, but I have learnt how to create more than one link message from within an image within a wiki. My own wiki test included 2 locos in a photo & moving the cursor time to either of the locos would give a link for that loco. [[User:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk:Sharpo|talk]]) 21time as follows:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I've been spending far too long on this as well, but I've finally got there. Service Unavailable<br>Click on the town names on the [[Map | Map]] The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.<br>It takes Additionally, a bit of trial and 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to get handle the box coordinates in the right place, but I think this is a better than the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interest, such as the Engine Houserequest. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 01:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Some good work thereIt is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes' but occasionally when accessing a normal page. The main thing Been happening for a couple of months now is . Another one for Graham or Will to get have a suitable map - the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkward, given that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer to Bewdley Station than Kidder! look at if possible? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1015:1441, 15 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I like the map on the front page. Would it be worth putting on each of the station pages to show their positioning on the SVR?--[[== User:Brick60000|Brick60000]] ([[User talk:Brick60000|talk]]) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)permissions ==
==Making changes==I've modified the user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". I found it a bit odd that having created a new user, I couldn't edit my own user page... Given that spambots are a non-issue now, hopefully we'll be ok. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Up to now, everyone's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There haven't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things to a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OK, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding the maps and logo? I just went ahead and did it. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have a picture on the front page? How do we pick one?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)== Wiki bot ==
If you decide I'm playing around with making an "svrwikibot", mainly to have a picture on do the front page, keep it interesting by changing it every weekupdate that Robin currently does. Otherwise, once this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people arenI't likely to look at it very often. ve gone with the [[Userhttps:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sharpo|talk]Pywikibot Pywikibot]framework, because a) 13:46, 31 January 2015 (UTCI can code Python and b)it works.
If anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to do, let me know. --[[User:My 10p worth is so long as you think Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC): Alright, hold your breath - if it is an improvement's working, carry on and add/edit as necessary which is the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays things. Worth adding a note in bot will now update the summary if main page comment is required, eg if I had a better logo at 5am BST (which I don’t!4am GMT) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead?”daily...--[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1710:3201, 31 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)
::If there was a 'like' button on here, I've "protected" the front page, logo and maps to prevent any malicious edits. We havend press it! I't had much spam yet, but there was the possibility that someone could alter the front page m not sure about other functions for it to something unwantedcarry out. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit, they can put it here on the Talk page and one Most of the administrators can do it.<br>bot edits I created the logo in Paint come across on my PC Wikipedia tend to be formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for the chocolate & cream. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got the correct colour codestrailing spaces in tables, I'll do a new one.changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br/nowiki>There's to bullet format and so on. Not a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installedparticular priority here in my view.<br>One idea I had was of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a long thin picture problem on here because of a full train in profileour formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), taking up which I think is caused by the full width of conflict with the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depthterminology add-on (whose name I forget). The picture could be selected at random from Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that one of each carriage set. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0914:2710, 1 February 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)
A couple of thoughts on pictures, following a revisit to Festipedia::: The addon in question is "Lingo".:They have a picture of I remember hoping/expecting the month on the front pagesoftware update earlier this year would fix it. Would that be a reasonable frequency to adoptHowever, especially as the mods would presumably have to change it?:They also have a lot of historical photos didn'from t, and at the collection', especially on time I did put in a report about the loco pagesissue still being present. Does Looking back at the SVR have a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and if sobug report, is anyone on speaking terms with the owner(there's) who could broach the subject of adding some here? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservationbeen no response or fix yet.<br>--[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1208:5238, 2 February 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I thought it was a short name like that. It's not a showstopper, I'll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::A small update to say that the bot seems to be working away quite happily, and on the few occasions I've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC) :Page history suggests the bot last updated on 7 April? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ==Changes needed please=Railway Heritage Register links update===A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on this page Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep the list currentupdating them on a weekly basis.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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