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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

==Stourport :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to SVR Live that "Information which is publicly accessible for enthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and Tenbury branches==application forms''', and so on." However I can't see photography policy on the new version, or on the SVR website either. Any idea where they would be found these days?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Would it ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the old site seemed to be more correct to refer to these as horribly out of date, and upon enquiring directly with the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line SVR on Facebook, the map and alter response I got gave me the linksimpression they were only interested in direct inquiries, page titles and redirects to suitrather than advertising it online?--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

:My inclination would be not to bother (to the casual SVR visitorIn terms of setting it up, both are branches off the line they are on)unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG. The former was simply UK has a continuation of the old SVR rather than a line in itselfphotography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.htm here]. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest Line, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours the former but I'd There may be interested to dig out some original sources good ideas to see what the commonest usage was at the time. I don't think anyone browsing the wiki will get too confused as be had from it stands.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1816:3255, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

==Logo==Would it be :::As a good idea low grade entry point I have added to have a suitable SVR image or logo on the main [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page. For some basic details with an idea to add a visitor seeing the simple [[From The Window]] type guide page for the first time, it would give them some idea what it was all aboutwhen locations are populated. Yes, I know it should be obviousWhat do people think?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, but...... 11 February 2018 (UTC)

::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be good to illustrate each page with a photo taken from that location as well. --[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0010:0934, 13 January 2015 12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? Ican've been thinking t find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the same (I just mentioned it in one top of the forum threads)my head, no section exists yet. I guess The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main question line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is whether the SVR no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be happy a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with us using its logo 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?- it-[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you's starting re eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to sound like weadmit I don'll need t really know where to get in contact with find historical information; the office at some point SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a few of these thingsstatic exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992. If they decide not--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:10, does someone feel suitably arty?19 January 2017 (UTC)

==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I'm seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the carriage and loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the administrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page names to dates and vice versa. It should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 0916:2318, 13 January 2015 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps ===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in . I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the meanwhile we wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've adopted asked for help on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the SVR Online logobottom of every page. Also; starting By linking to add headings here the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to separate topicsbe creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I hope youcouldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn're t make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all OK with dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to ask thisas were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency. --[[User:BoldfordGraham Phillips 110|BoldfordGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:BoldfordGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0916:3949, 1 February 2015 2 June 2017 (UTC)

:I emailed marketing@svrlivethought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in, even though a page exists for June 25.com Not sure if it is a coincidence, but the home page was last edited on 16th January to ask permission to use June 20. Has anything changed in the official SVR logo. I haven't heard back yetend, so I've gone and used it anyway. If I get a threatening letter apart from their solicitors, I'll change it switching Lingo back again. on? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0719:5658, 2 February 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better! ::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, the next and previous page links on 'August 4' and other days works fine. When I log in they stop working, replaced by a grey box with a dash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, any idea why? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0814:0537, 2 February 2015 4 August 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I'll probably spend a lot ve finally got the Previous & Next links working. It turns out it needs spaces either side of time providing info about the SVR+ & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but we also need not when logged in, or why it used to show where work and then stopped working, but it is for people who come across this wiki & decide works now. I'm still stuck on the railway might be worth a visitout of date On This Day link though. So, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding It looks like we need a suitable size image of bot to automatically edit the UK that can be usedpage at 00:01 every day, with but creating a highlighted area showing exactly where the Railway bot is, then showing an enlargement of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of beyond me at the railwaymoment.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 09:44, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

::::Thanks - I'll keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to it.--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1105:3951, 13 January 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

On the subject of maps: For completeness, I've adapted this issue has been "solved" through the map at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] to only show as much use of the SVR as is currently in use. It works OK on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandbox]Svrwikibot, but not here http://www.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>I gather I need to import the template that the map is based on, but I canper Graham't find instructions on how to do that.<br>I was going to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map and create a more detailed map, showing more features as well.<br>Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create the maps some other way?s suggestion --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1014:4207, 14 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I was looking on As of today it's bringing up the internet yesterday page for suitable maps & saw that very same pageFebruary 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, then thought I would do 7 March 2022 (UTC):It's been broken for a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from that - then scan & upload while now. Danny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and once it. It was does then I realised I was spending time the 'on this instead day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of doing other thingsthe week link!! In answer to your question, ) I don't know how to edit that template restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with access to how you want itthe back end and a bit of knowledge. May be better to draw Maybe Graham or Will could have a new versionlook at some point? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1115:0037, 14 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I think 'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of the main issue content being not secure and is that referring to something in version 1241 which was the map requires a standard set of images (about 3000!) that exist on Wikipedia, which you can tile together to show version before the layout (ehttps upgrade.g. plain track, station, disused station, Happens in both Chrome and so on), as well as all the templates it pulls inIE. It might be possible to copy it overloads fine when logged in, but so I don't know if assume it would may be another caching issue. Did we have a good idea to pick back end utility for refreshing all the pages and choose the bits we wantif so, or alternatively to copy could one of the whole lot over with a lot of redundant bitsadmins run it? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, but with the flexibility to make more in future. 15 December 2017 (UTC)

: I wasn't getting a secure content warning, but the page wasn't loading correctly for me either. I can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that page manually, and I think I found a script I can set to run every so often to clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 1216:1527, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

::I was hoping it would selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be possible to import others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot I can add on the template diagnostices, except:::*IE shows a text only page, and just those icons used as it's includes a handy way of linking directly to stations on the line directly saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the map.I was then going link takes you to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etcold page on the non-secure site. with It also shows a link to eachbox at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." Maybe I'm asking too much and it would be best to stick to a normal image file of a map::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box.::--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1222:5500, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:::I remember years ago using some free software get the same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that allowed me to add links my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from a word " is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the page isn't loading the style (or words pasted into an image on my siteany pictures) is why that occurs. There may be something similar for a wiki if you I've reset some more of the cache settings, which seems to have time to try & search for fixed it. This was the sort I don't understand some of thing I just found after a search, but not within a wiki - http://wwwthis dark voodoo..onextrapixel.com/examples/image-map/-[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 18:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Back again, just found an example on ===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I've noticed that from time to time the Wiki is logging me off in mid-edit. With a wikinormal log in, there my status is an image where you changed to logged out (ie the top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of course I can click on 't save the different people you can seepage. If I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I get the message ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. http://wwwYou might have been logged out.mediawiki'' Abandoning the edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to log out and in again.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMapIs there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1516:0920, 14 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Wow===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], took me a few hours to understand it, but I appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have learnt how removed the signature button that used to create more than one link from within an image within be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages. There is a wiki'''[https://www.mediawiki. My own org/wiki test included 2 locos /Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be added back in a photo & moving specific pages. Could one of the cursor admins see if it is possible to either of add this configuration variable so the locos would give a link for that locobutton can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 2117:4053, 14 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)

===Service Unavailable message===While I've been spending far too long on this as wellm in the Bug reports page, but I've finally got there.<br>Click on the town names on the [[Map | Map]] .<br>It takes m seeing a bit of trial and error message from time to get the box coordinates in the right place, but I think this is a better than the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interest, such time as the Engine House. --[[Userfollows:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 01:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Some good work there. Service Unavailable<br> The main thing now server is temporarily unable to service your request due to get maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.<br> Additionally, a suitable map - 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkward, given that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer to Bewdley Station than Kidder! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)request.

I It is usually when requesting a special page like the map on the front 'recent changes' but occasionally when accessing a normal page. Would it be worth putting on each Been happening for a couple of the station pages months now. Another one for Graham or Will to show their positioning on the SVRhave a look at if possible?--[[User:Brick60000Robin|Brick60000Robin]] ([[User talk:Brick60000Robin|talk]]) 1615:1741, 16 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

==Making changesUser permissions ==

Up to now, everyoneI's been making changes ve modified the user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without consulting anyone elsebeing marked "trustworthy". There haven't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things to I found it a bit odd that having created a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OKnew user, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding the maps and logo? I just went ahead and did itcouldn't edit my own user page.. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have Given that spambots are a picture on the front page? How do non-issue now, hopefully we pick one?<br>'ll be ok. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0809:4325, 31 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think it is I'm playing around with making an improvement"svrwikibot", carry on and add/edit as necessary which is mainly to do the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays thingsfront page update that Robin currently does. Worth adding a note in I've gone with the summary if comment is required[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot Pywikibot] framework, eg if I had because a better logo (which ) I don’t!can code Python and b) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead?”works.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:32, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I've "protected" If anyone has other ideas for things we could get the front page, logo and maps bot to prevent any malicious edits. We haven't had much spam yetdo, but there was the possibility that someone could alter the front page to something unwantedlet me know. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:27, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>9 October 2017 (UTC)I created the logo in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for the chocolate & cream. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got the correct colour codes: Alright, I'll do a new one.<br>I don't know hold your breath - if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>Thereit's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profileworking, taking up the full width of bot will now update the main page, but only a couple of lines worth of depthcomment at 5am BST (4am GMT) daily.. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage set. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0910:2701, 1 February 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts ::If there was a 'like' button on pictureshere, following a revisit I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it to Festipediacarry out.:They have a picture Most of the month bot edits I come across on the front page. Would that Wikipedia tend to be a reasonable frequency to adoptformatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, especially as the mods would presumably have changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></nowiki> to change it?:They also have bullet format and so on. Not a lot particular priority here in my view. One of historical photos 'from the collection'them moves references after closing punctuation, especially which would cause a problem on the loco pages. Does the SVR have a similar collection here because of our formatting issue (Kidderminster Railway Museum?see my [[User:Robin|user page]]) and if so, which I think is anyone on speaking terms caused by the conflict with the ownerterminology add-on (swhose name I forget) who could broach the subject of adding some here. Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that one? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservation.<br>--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1214:5210, 2 February 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)

::: The addon in question is "Lingo". I remember hoping/expecting the software update earlier this year would fix it. However, it didn't, and at the time I did put in a report about the issue still being present. Looking back at the bug report, there's been no response or fix yet. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 08:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks, I thought it was a short name like that. It's not a showstopper, I'll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::A small update to say that the bot seems to be working away quite happily, and on the few occasions I've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC) :Page history suggests the bot last updated on 7 April? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ==Changes needed please=Railway Heritage Register links update===A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on this page vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep the list currentupdating them on a weekly basis.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)