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==LogoSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==Would There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it 's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a good idea script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to have get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a suitable SVR image or logo on page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the main pagebody text if that makes a difference. For --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a visitor seeing change at the page start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the first timenew, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it would give them some idea what it was , the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all aboutother nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. Yes--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I know it noticed that SVRLive links should also be obviousHTTPS, butalthough again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org. uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I've been thinking the same (I just mentioned it in one This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of the forum publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads)/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I guess the main question is whether the SVR 'm not a photographer but a guide would be happy with us using its logo - useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it's starting might include:Work north to sound like we'll need to get SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in contact with the office at some point on a few of these things. If they decide not, does someone feel suitably arty?afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] Also a does and don'ts section ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:23, 13 January 2015 (UTCtrespass etc.)

Perhaps Thoughts?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the meanwhile we should've adopted past, in case the SVR Online logo. Also; starting considered it to be encouraging people to add headings here photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to separate topicsvisit the railway. I hope you're all OK with this However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start. --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0915:3959, 1 February 2015 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I emailed marketing@svrliveOfficial response from Lewis Maddox: "Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.com on 16th January " So, going back to ask permission to use the official SVR logo. I haven't heard back yetoriginal post, so Iwhat've gone and used s the best way of setting it up? Does it anywayneed a table with the headings I suggested. If I get Is there a better way? This might be one where a threatening letter little thought and input from their solicitors, I'll change it back againphotographers is worthwhile... --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 0713:5606, 2 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better! :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to SVR Live that "Information which is publicly accessible for enthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms''', and so on." However I can't see photography policy on the new version, or on the SVR website either. Any idea where they would be found these days?--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0816:0550, 2 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We'll probably spend a lot of time providing info about ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the SVR, but we also need old site seemed to show where it is for people who come across this wiki & decide the railway might be worth a visit. So, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding a suitable size image horribly out of the UK that can be useddate, and upon enquiring directly with a highlighted area showing exactly where the Railway isSVR on Facebook, then showing an enlargement of the area alongside response I got gave me the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of the railway.impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, rather than advertising it online? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

:In terms of setting it up, the unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a photography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.htm here]. There may be some good ideas to be had from it.--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1116:3955, 13 4 January 2015 2017 (UTC)

On the subject of maps, I've adapted the map at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] to only show as much of the SVR as is currently in use. It works OK on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandbox], but not here http://www.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>I gather I need to import the template that the map is based on, but I can't find instructions on how to do thatThank you.<br>A job for when I was going to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map and create a more detailed map, showing more features as well.<br>Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create the maps have some other way?time :)--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1012:4228, 14 18 January 2015 2017 (UTC)

:::As a low grade entry point I was looking on have added to the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page, then thought I would do some basic details with an idea to add a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from that - then scan & upload it[[From The Window]] type guide page when locations are populated. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead of doing other things!! In answer to your question, I don't know how to edit that template to how you want it. May be better to draw a new versionWhat do people think? --[[User:SharpoPatrick Hearn|SharpoPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:SharpoPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 1110:0055, 14 January 2015 11 February 2018 (UTC)

::::Looks good. I think the main issue is that the map requires a standard set of images (about 3000!) that exist on Wikipedia, which you can tile together to show the layout (e.g. plain track, station, disused station, and so on), as well as all the templates it pulls in've added some directions. It might be possible to copy it over, but I don't know if it would be a good idea to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively to copy the whole lot over illustrate each page with a lot of redundant bitsphoto taken from that location as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:34, but with the flexibility to make more in future. 12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 1213:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:10, 14 19 January 2015 2017 (UTC)

==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I was hoping it would be possible to import the template and just those icons used as it's a handy way m seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of linking directly to stations Navboxes appearing on the line directly from carriage and loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the map.administrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I was then going did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etc. with a link convert page names to eachdates and vice versa.Maybe I'm asking too much and it would It should be best to stick to a normal image file of a mapworking again now.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 1216:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:5518, 14 January 2015 24 May 2017 (UTC)

===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I remember years ago was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some free software that allowed me reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to add links from a word or words pasted into an image have solved the problem on my site. There the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be something similar a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki if /Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you have want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to try & search HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, itseems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the sort bottom of thing the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I just found after might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a searchbit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but not within is there anything in them which could be better handled in a wiki template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?-- http[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::://wwwI'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates.onextrapixelI did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency.com/examples/image-map/-[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Back again:I thought it had been working fine, just found an example on but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in, even though a page exists for June 25. Not sure if it is a wikicoincidence, there is an image where you can click but the home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the different people you can see. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMapback end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1519:0958, 14 January 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Wow::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, took me a few hours to understand it, but the next and previous page links on 'August 4' and other days works fine. When I have learnt how to create more than one link from within an image within a wiki. My own wiki test included 2 locos log in they stop working, replaced by a photo & moving the cursor to either of the locos would give grey box with a link for that locodash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, any idea why? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 2114:4037, 14 January 2015 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I've been spending far too long on this as well:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I've finally got therethe Previous & Next links working.<br>Click on It turns out it needs spaces either side of the town names + & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, or why it used to work and then stopped working, but it works now. I'm still stuck on the [[Map | Map]] out of date On This Day link though.<br>It takes looks like we need a bit of trial and error bot to get automatically edit the box coordinates in the right placepage at 00:01 every day, but I think this creating a bot is a better than beyond me at the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interest, such as the Engine Housemoment. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0109:4644, 15 January 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Some good work there. The main thing now is to get a suitable map ::::Thanks - the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkward, given that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer I'll keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to Bewdley Station than Kidder! it.--[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1005:1451, 15 January 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I like : For completeness, this issue has been "solved" through the map on the front page. Would it be worth putting on each use of the station pages to show their positioning on the SVR?Svrwikibot, per Graham's suggestion --[[User:Brick60000Danny252|Brick60000Danny252]] ([[User talk:Brick60000Danny252|talk]]) 1614:1707, 16 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Up to now, everyone===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There havenm finding a few pages which aren't been any disputes yetloading correctly when not logged in, but should we be putting things to a vote first?<br>Minor edits for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of text should be OK, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding the maps content being not secure and logo? I just went ahead is referring to something in version 1241 which was the version before the https upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and did itIE. Should we have discussed it first? It loads fine when logged in, so I can easily undo assume itmay be another caching issue.<br>Should Did we have a picture on back end utility for refreshing all the front page? How do we pick pages and if so, could oneof the admins run it?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0817:4353, 31 January 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)

If you decide to have : I wasn't getting a picture on secure content warning, but the front page, keep it interesting by changing it every weekwasn't loading correctly for me either. Otherwise, once this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people arenI can't likely say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that page manually, and I think I found a script I can set to look at it very run every so often. to clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1316:4627, 31 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think it is an improvement, carry on :I selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and addfound these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] /edit as necessary which is the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays things[[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Worth adding Not a note in lot I can add on the summary if comment is requireddiagnostices, eg if I had except:::*IE shows a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload text only page, and it and say “shall we try this insteadincludes a line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?”title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''.Clicking the link takes you to the old page on the non-secure site. It also shows a box at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box. ::--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1722:3200, 31 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:::I've "protected" get the front same text-only page, logo and maps to prevent any malicious editsdisplayed as you get with IE. We havenThe fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't had much spam yet, but there was work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the possibility that someone could alter text is usually hidden by the front page to something unwanted. If anyone wants to make a genuine editstyle, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>I created fact the logo in Paint on my PC and thought Ipage isn'd got a reasonably good match for t loading the chocolate & creamstyle (or any pictures) is why that occurs. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyoneI's got ve reset some more of the correct colour codescache settings, I'll do a new onewhich seems to have fixed it.<br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>There's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installedunderstand some of this dark voodoo.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profile, taking up the full width of the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depth. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage set. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0918:2724, 1 February 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)

A couple ===Loss of thoughts on pictures, following a revisit to Festipedia.session data===:They have a picture of In the month on last few weeks I've noticed that from time to time the front pageWiki is logging me off in mid-edit. Would that be With a reasonable frequency normal log in, my status is changed to adopt, especially as logged out (ie the mods would presumably have top right button reverts to change it?:They also have a lot 'Log in') and of historical photos course I can'from t save the collection', especially on the loco pagespage. Does the SVR If I have a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and if soselected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is anyone on speaking terms with still showing 'Log out' but I get the owner(s) who message ''Sorry! We could broach the subject not process your edit due to a loss of adding some here? Particularly session data. You might have been logged out.'' Abandoning the SVR in GWR days edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to log out and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on again. Is there anything unusual happening at the original SVRserver back end?), and also early days of the SVR in preservation.<br>--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1216:5220, 2 February 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

==Changes needed please=Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], it appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have removed the signature button that used to be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages. There is a '''[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be added back in specific pages. Could one of the admins see if it is possible to add this configuration variable so the button can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC) ===Service Unavailable message===While I'm in the Bug reports page, I'm seeing a message from time to time as follows:  Service Unavailable<br> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.<br> Additionally, a 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. It is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes' but occasionally when accessing a normal page. Been happening for a couple of months now. Another one for Graham or Will to have a look at if possible? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC) == User permissions == I've modified the user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". I found it a bit odd that having created a new user, I couldn't edit my own user page... Given that spambots are a non-issue now, hopefully we'll be ok. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC) == Wiki bot == I'm playing around with making an "svrwikibot", mainly to do the front page update that Robin currently does. I've gone with the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot Pywikibot] framework, because a) I can code Python and b) it works. If anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to do, let me know. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC): Alright, hold your breath - if it's working, the bot will now update the main page comment at 5am BST (4am GMT) daily... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:01, 9 October 2017 (UTC) ::If there was a 'like' button on here, I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it to carry out. Most of the bot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></nowiki> to bullet format and so on. Not a particular priority here in my view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is caused by the conflict with the terminology add-on (whose name I forget). Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that one? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC) ::: The addon in question is "Lingo". I remember hoping/expecting the software update earlier this year would fix it. However, it didn't, and at the time I did put in a report about the issue still being present. Looking back at the bug report, there's been no response or fix yet. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 08:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks, I thought it was a short name like that. It's not a showstopper, I'll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::A section small update to note any amendments needed say that the bot seems to be working away quite happily, and on the few occasions I've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC) :Page history suggests the bot last updated on 7 April? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ===Railway Heritage Register links update===The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep the list currentupdating them on a weekly basis.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)