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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

We changed :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Capcha question Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to a dynamic one SVR Live that "Information which should have been harder is publicly accessible for spambots to crack.<br>It wasnenthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms't working as well as hoped, so I have now reworded the question to see if that's any better.<br>I believe it's possible to create different user groups with different posting rights, and so we could, for example move all the proven genuine contributors to a on."trusted" group so that they donHowever I can't have see photography policy on the new version, or on the inconvenience of having to solve a little puzzle every time SVR website either. Any idea where they want to make an edit. I'll look in to that later.<br>would be found these days?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:1350, 2 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Within an hour of making ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the above changes, we had a load more spam.<br>It seems old site seemed to follow a set pattern be horribly out of creating a new account date, and then a User Page, so I have disabled upon enquiring directly with the ability for the default user groupSVR on Facebook, "User", to create pages and manually added all the genuine contributors to a new User Group "Trustworthy".<br>If response I have missed you out, or if you have any other problems, you should still be able to edit this page, so either reply here, email got gave methe impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, or post on the forum or Facebook page and I'll sort rather than advertising it out.<br>online? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1209:5152, 2 March 2015 5 January 2017 (UTC)

I've moved all :In terms of setting it up, the known genuine contributors to unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a "Trustworthy" user group and removed page creation rights from all othersphotography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.<br>They're still getting through though somehow, so I have just disabled the ability to write directly to the APIhtm here].<br>I'm not too sure what this means myself, but I think it's a way There may be some good ideas to bypass the normal page creation method and, as I can't see any legitimate reason to use be had from it, and there was an option to disable it, that's what I've done.<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1716:0755, 3 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

: :Thank you. A job for when I suspect that that is how they were getting through without page creation rights - basically it means sending the command to create a page directly without loading up the "Creating page..." form first.have some time :)--[[User:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|WillSaltPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 2212:1728, 3 March 2015 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Would it ::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be more correct good to refer to these illustrate each page with a photo taken from that location as the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line on the map and alter the linkswell. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:34, page titles and redirects to suit?12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:My inclination would be not to bother 28, 18 January 2017 (to UTC): Off the casual SVR visitortop of my head, both are branches off no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line they excursions]], which are listed onthe linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. The former was simply No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be a continuation of major exercise to backfill the old SVR rather than a line in itselfhistory.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest LineDo you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the former but [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit Idon'd be interested t really know where to dig out some original sources to see what find historical information; the commonest usage was at the time. SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't think anyone browsing know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the wiki will get too confused Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it standswasn't steamed until 1992.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1813:3210, 6 February 2015 19 January 2017 (UTC)

OK, ==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I've changed the link on the map to point to Wyre Forest Line, while keeping "Tenbury Branch" m seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the map itselfcarriage and loco pages. As Anyone else? Can one of the Wyre Forest Line article says, most Kidderminster to Bewdley trains continued towards Tenburyadministrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, so if anything, the Bridgnorth line 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was the branch. However, going something I did without realising by the fact that the disused line branches away at 90 degrees from the currently used line, it seems more intuitive altering parser settings while trying to refer convert page names to it as the branch in a modern contextdates and vice versa. It should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

==Logo=On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)Would :I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a good idea to have caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a suitable SVR image or logo slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help on the main [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the pagewas last rendered in to HTML. For a visitor logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the first proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it ! It would give be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them some idea what which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it was all aboutdone. Yes, now I know how easy it should is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be obviousbetter if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, butthat would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency...... --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

:I thought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in, even though a page exists for June 25. Not sure if it is a coincidence, but the home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the back end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0019:0958, 13 January 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I::Another oddity with 've been thinking the same (I just mentioned it On this day in one of the forum threads)history'. I guess When logged out, the main question is whether the SVR would be happy with us using its logo - itnext and previous page links on 's starting to sound like weAugust 4'll need to get and other days works fine. When I log in contact they stop working, replaced by a grey box with the office at some point on a few of these thingsdash in. If they decide notNot sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, does someone feel suitably artyany idea why?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:37, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I've finally got the Previous & Next links working. It turns out it needs spaces either side of the + & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, or why it used to work and then stopped working, but it works now. I'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though. It looks like we need a bot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, but creating a bot is beyond me at the moment.--[[User:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|Danny252Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 09:2344, 13 January 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps in the meanwhile we should::::Thanks - I've adopted the SVR Online logo. Also; starting ll keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to add headings here to separate topics. I hope you're all OK with thisit. --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0905:3951, 1 February 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I emailed marketing@svrlive.com on 16th January to ask permission to : For completeness, this issue has been "solved" through the use of the official SVR logo. I haven't heard back yetSvrwikibot, so I've gone and used it anyway. If I get a threatening letter from their solicitors, Iper Graham'll change it back again. s suggestion --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 14:07:56, 2 February 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much betterAs of today it's bringing up the page for February 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC):It's been broken for a while now. Danny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and once it does then the 'on this day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link! ) I don't know to restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with access to the back end and a bit of knowledge. Maybe Graham or Will could have a look at some point? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0815:0537, 2 February 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

==Location=Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===WeI'll probably spend m finding a lot few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of time providing info about the SVR, but we also need content being not secure and is referring to show where it is for people who come across this wiki & decide something in version 1241 which was the version before the railway might be worth a visithttps upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and IE. SoIt loads fine when logged in, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding a suitable size image of the UK that can so I assume it may be used, with another caching issue. Did we have a highlighted area showing exactly where back end utility for refreshing all the Railway ispages and if so, then showing an enlargement could one of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of the railway.admins run it? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

: I wasn't getting a secure content warning, but the page wasn't loading correctly for me either. I can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that page manually, and I think I found a script I can set to run every so often to clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1116:3927, 13 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

On the subject of maps, ::I've adapted the map selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[https:BR General Goods Containers]] /[[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] /en[[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]].wikipediaThere may be others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far.org/wiki/TemplateNot a lot I can add on the diagnostices, except:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] to only show as much of the SVR as is currently in use. It works OK on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandbox]*IE shows a text only page, but not here httpand it includes a line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/Mapversion1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’<br/nowiki>I gather I need ''. Clicking the link takes you to import the template that old page on the map is based on, but I can't find instructions on how to do thatnon-secure site.<br>I was going to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map and create It also shows a more detailed map, showing more features as wellbox at the bottom "Only secure content displayed.<br>" Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create ::*Chrome does the same but without the maps some other way?pop up box. ::--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1022:4200, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:::I was looking on get the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same text-only page, then thought I would do a tracing from a map & then create displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my own simple map attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from " is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the page isn't loading the style (or any pictures) is why that - then scan & upload itoccurs. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead 've reset some more of doing other things!! In answer the cache settings, which seems to your question, have fixed it. I don't know how to edit that template to how you want itunderstand some of this dark voodoo... May be better to draw a new version? --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1118:0024, 14 January 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)

===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I think 've noticed that from time to time the main issue Wiki is that the map requires logging me off in mid-edit. With a standard set of images normal log in, my status is changed to logged out (about 3000!ie the top right button reverts to 'Log in') that exist on Wikipedia, which you and of course I can tile together to show 't save the layout (epage.g. plain trackIf I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, station, disused station, and so on), as well as all the templates it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it over, top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I donget the message 't know if it would be a good idea 'Sorry! We could not process your edit due to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively to copy the whole lot over with a lot loss of redundant bits, but with session data. You might have been logged out.'' Abandoning the flexibility edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to make more log out and in futureagain. Is there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:20, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], it appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have removed the signature button that used to be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages. There is a '''[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be added back in specific pages. Could one of the admins see if it is possible to add this configuration variable so the button can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1217:1553, 14 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)

===Service Unavailable message===While I was hoping it would be possible to import the template and just those icons used as it's a handy way of linking directly to stations on m in the line directly from the map.I was then going to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etc. with a link to each.Maybe Bug reports page, I'm asking too much and it would be best seeing a message from time to stick to a normal image file of a map.--[[Usertime as follows:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 12:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I remember years ago using some free software that allowed me Service Unavailable<br> The server is temporarily unable to add links from a word service your request due to maintenance downtime or words pasted into an image on my sitecapacity problems. There may be something similar for a wiki if you have time to Please try & search for itagain later. This <br> Additionally, a 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the sort of thing I just found after a search, but not within a wiki - http://www.onextrapixelrequest.com/examples/image-map/

Back again, just found an example on It is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes' but occasionally when accessing a wiki, there is an image where you can click on the different people you can seenormal page. http://wwwBeen happening for a couple of months now.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMapAnother one for Graham or Will to have a look at if possible? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 15:0941, 14 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, took me a few hours to understand it, but I have learnt how to create more than one link from within an image within a wiki. My own wiki test included 2 locos in a photo & moving the cursor to either of the locos would give a link for that loco. [[== User:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk:Sharpo|talk]]) 21:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)permissions ==

I've been spending far too long on this as well, but I've finally got there.<br>Click on modified the town names on the [[Map | Map]] user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy".<br>It takes I found it a bit of trial and error to get the box coordinates in the right placeodd that having created a new user, but I think this is couldn't edit my own user page... Given that spambots are a better than the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interestnon-issue now, such as the Engine Househopefully we'll be ok. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0109:4625, 15 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I like the map on 'm playing around with making an "svrwikibot", mainly to do the front pageupdate that Robin currently does. Would it be worth putting on each of the station pages to show their positioning on I've gone with the SVR?--[[Userhttps:Brick60000|Brick60000]] ([[User talk//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Brick60000|talk]Pywikibot Pywikibot]framework, because a) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTCI can code Python and b)it works.

Up to now::If there was a 'like' button on here, everyoneI's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There havend press it! I't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things m not sure about other functions for it to a vote first?<br>Minor carry out. Most of the bot edits of text should I come across on Wikipedia tend to be OKformatting and housekeeping, but what about more conspicuous changes things like adding the maps stripping leading and logo? I just went ahead trailing spaces in tables, changing links and did it. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.references separated by <nowiki><br>Should we have </nowiki> to bullet format and so on. Not a particular priority here in my view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a picture problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is caused by the front page? How do conflict with the terminology add-on (whose name I forget). Presumably we pick haven't got anywhere with resolving that one?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0814:4310, 31 January 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)

If you decide to have a picture on ::: The addon in question is "Lingo". I remember hoping/expecting the front page, keep it interesting by changing software update earlier this year would fix it every week. OtherwiseHowever, once this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people arenit didn't likely to look , and at the time I did put in a report about the issue still being present. Looking back at it very oftenthe bug report, there's been no response or fix yet. --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1308:4638, 31 January 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think :::Thanks, I thought it is an improvement, carry on and add/edit as necessary which is the idea of was a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays thingsshort name like that. Worth adding It's not a note in the summary if comment is requiredshowstopper, eg if I had a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead?”'ll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1713:3253, 31 January 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

I've "protected" the front page, logo and maps ::A small update to prevent any malicious edits. We haven't had much spam yet, but there was the possibility say that someone could alter the front page bot seems to something unwanted. If anyone wants to make a genuine editbe working away quite happily, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>I created the logo in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for the chocolate & cream. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got the correct colour codes, few occasions I'll do a new one.<br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>There's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profileve checked, taking up the full width of the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depth. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage set"On this day" link has been correct. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0914:2704, 1 February 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts on pictures, following a revisit to Festipedia.:They have a picture of Page history suggests the month bot last updated on the front page. Would that be a reasonable frequency to adopt, especially as the mods would presumably have to change it7 April?:They also have a lot of historical photos 'from the collection', especially on the loco pages. Does the SVR have a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and if so, is anyone on speaking terms with the owner(s) who could broach the subject of adding some here? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservation.<br>--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1223:5234, 2 February 2015 11 April 2018 (UTC)

::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ===Railway Heritage Register links update=Changes needed please==A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on this page vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  == Schematic Map == I've created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the name as consistently used in SVR gala publications etc). I don't have the correct font to add any new text, ie "(Limited use)", but I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the list currentadditional text, unless Graham happens to read this and gets there first. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC):On the [[List of stations]] page I've minor edited the schematic to remove '(disused)' and change the icon colour for the station (look on the 'changes' to see what changes I made). How this might help I'm not sure, as that page doesn't use a .png file?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)::Helps greatly thanks - I hadn't realised how Graham created the original .png file until now. I've added '(Limited use)' which is in the correct font and created a new .png file from a screen grab, tweaking the size to match the original. I could use other wording such as 'Galas only' rather than 'Limited use' if preferred.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)