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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

==Stourport Official response from Lewis Maddox: "Great idea, if you need any photos let me know." So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested. Is there a better way? This might be one where a little thought and Tenbury branches==input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 13:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Would :Just while thinking about it be more correct to refer to these as , on the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line [[Current events on the map Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to SVR Live that "Information which is publicly accessible for enthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms''', and alter so on." However I can't see photography policy on the linksnew version, page titles and redirects to suitor on the SVR website either. Any idea where they would be found these days?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

:My inclination would be not to bother (to the casual SVR visitor:When I looked earlier this year, both are branches off the line they are lineside photography information available on). The former was simply a continuation of the old SVR rather than a line in itself. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest Linesite seemed to be horribly out of date, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours upon enquiring directly with the former but I'd be interested to dig out some original sources to see what the commonest usage was at SVR on Facebook, the time. response I don't think anyone browsing got gave me the wiki will get too confused as impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, rather than advertising it stands.online? --[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1809:3252, 6 February 2015 5 January 2017 (UTC)

==Logo==Would it be a good idea to have a suitable SVR image or logo on the main page::Thank you. For a visitor seeing the page A job for the first when I have some time:)--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, it would give them some idea what it was all about. Yes, I know it should be obvious, but...... 18 January 2017 (UTC)

:::As a low grade entry point I have added to the [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page some basic details with an idea to add a simple [[From The Window]] type guide page when locations are populated. What do people think?--[[User:SharpoPatrick Hearn|SharpoPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:SharpoPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 0010:0955, 13 January 2015 11 February 2018 (UTC)

::::Looks good. I've been thinking the same (I just mentioned it in one of the forum threads)added some directions. I guess the main question is whether the SVR It would be happy with us using its logo - it's starting to sound like we'll need good to get in contact illustrate each page with the office at some point on a few of these thingsphoto taken from that location as well. If they decide not--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:34, does someone feel suitably arty?12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC):23:Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and allow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13 :10, 19 January 2015 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps in the meanwhile we should==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I've adopted m seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the SVR Online logocarriage and loco pages. Also; starting Anyone else? Can one of the administrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to add headings here convert page names to separate topicsdates and vice versa. I hope you're all OK with thisIt should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks. --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0916:3918, 1 February 2015 24 May 2017 (UTC)

===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I emailed marketing@svrlive've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error.com I've asked for help on 16th January the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to ask permission HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to use be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the official SVR logosame tab like all other internal links. I havencouldn't heard back yetfix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've gone got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and used miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it anywaymyself when time permits). If ::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I get know how easy it is to create and call a threatening letter from their solicitorstemplate, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I'll change did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back againand altering all the existing ones for consistency. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0716:5649, 2 February 2015 June 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better! :I thought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in, even though a page exists for June 25. Not sure if it is a coincidence, but the home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the back end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0819:0558, 2 February 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'll probably spend a lot of time providing info about the SVR. When logged out, but we also need to show where it is for people who come across this wiki & decide the railway might be worth a visitnext and previous page links on 'August 4' and other days works fine. So When I log in they stop working, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding replaced by a suitable size image of the UK that can be used, grey box with a highlighted area showing exactly where dash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the Railway issame and if so, any idea why? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:37, then showing an enlargement of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of the railway.4 August 2017 (UTC)

:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I've finally got the Previous & Next links working. It turns out it needs spaces either side of the + & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, or why it used to work and then stopped working, but it works now. I'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though. It looks like we need a bot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, but creating a bot is beyond me at the moment.--[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 1109:3944, 13 January 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)

On the subject of maps, I've adapted the map at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] to only show as much of the SVR as is currently in use. It works OK on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandbox], but not here http://www.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>Thanks - I gather I need to import the template that the map is based on, but I can't find instructions on how to do that.<br>ll keep manually updating if I was going remember and nobody else beats me to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map and create a more detailed map, showing more features as wellit.<br>Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create the maps some other way?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1005:4251, 14 January 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I was looking on the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same page: For completeness, then thought I would do a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from that - then scan & upload it. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead issue has been "solved" through the use of doing other things!! In answer to your questionthe Svrwikibot, I donper Graham't know how to edit that template to how you want it. May be better to draw a new version? s suggestion --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1114:0007, 14 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I think As of today it's bringing up the main issue is that the map requires a standard set of images page for February 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] (about 3000![[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) that exist on Wikipedia15:24, which you can tile together to show the layout 7 March 2022 (eUTC):It's been broken for a while now.g. plain track, station, disused stationDanny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and so once it does then the 'on), this day' link only refreshes (as well far as all logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the templates it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it over, but home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link!) I don't know if it would be a good idea to pick and choose restart the bits we want, or alternatively Wikibot - it needs someone with access to copy the whole lot over with back end and a lot bit of redundant bitsknowledge. Maybe Graham or Will could have a look at some point? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:37, but with the flexibility to make more in future. 7 March 2022 (UTC)

===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of the content being not secure and is referring to something in version 1241 which was the version before the https upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and IE. It loads fine when logged in, so I assume it may be another caching issue. Did we have a back end utility for refreshing all the pages and if so, could one of the admins run it? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1217:53, 15, 14 January 2015 December 2017 (UTC)

: I was hoping it would be possible to import the template and just those icons used as itwasn's t getting a handy way of linking directly to stations on secure content warning, but the line directly from the mappage wasn't loading correctly for me either.I was then going to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etc. with a link to each.Maybe can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I'm asking too much ve fixed that page manually, and it would be best I think I found a script I can set to stick run every so often to a normal image file of a map.clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1216:5527, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

::I remember years ago using some free software that allowed me to add links from a word or words pasted into an image on my siteselected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be something similar for others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a wiki if you have time to try & search for it. This was lot I can add on the sort of thing I just found after diagnostices, except:::*IE shows a searchtext only page, but not within and it includes a wiki - httpline saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.onextrapixelsvrwiki.com/examplesversion1241/imageindex.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the link takes you to the old page on the non-secure site. It also shows a box at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box. ::--map/[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Back again:::I get the same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, just found an example on a wiki, there and the fact the page isn't loading the style (or any pictures) is an image where you can click on why that occurs. I've reset some more of the different people you can seecache settings, which seems to have fixed it. I don't understand some of this dark voodoo. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap--[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1518:0924, 14 January 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Wow, took ===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I've noticed that from time to time the Wiki is logging me off in mid-edit. With a few hours normal log in, my status is changed to logged out (ie the top right button reverts to understand it'Log in') and of course I can't save the page. If I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I have learnt how get the message ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to create more than one link from within an image within a wikiloss of session data. You might have been logged out. My own wiki test included 2 locos in a photo & moving '' Abandoning the cursor edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to either of log out and in again. Is there anything unusual happening at the locos would give a link for that loco. server back end?--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 2116:4020, 14 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

I===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''ve been spending far too long on this as well, but I(can've finally got there.<br>Click on the town names on t find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Map Query Corner#Santa services| MapQuery Corner]] , it appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have removed the signature button that used to be shown when editing 'normal' pages; it still appears when editing Discussion pages.<br>It takes There is a bit of trial and error '''[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to get the box coordinates be added back in specific pages. Could one of the right place, but I think admins see if it is possible to add this is a better than configuration variable so the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interestbutton can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, such as the Engine House29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0110:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:4653, 15 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Some good work there. The main thing now is to get a suitable map - ===Service Unavailable message===While I'm in the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkwardBug reports page, given that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer I'm seeing a message from time to Bewdley Station than Kidder! --[[Usertime as follows:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I like the map on the front page Service Unavailable<br> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. <br> Would it be worth putting on each of the station pages Additionally, a 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to show their positioning on handle the SVR?--[[User:Brick60000|Brick60000]] ([[User talk:Brick60000|talk]]) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)request.

==Making It is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes==' but occasionally when accessing a normal page. Been happening for a couple of months now. Another one for Graham or Will to have a look at if possible? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Up to now, everyone's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There haven't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things to a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OK, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding the maps and logo? I just went ahead and did it. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have a picture on the front page? How do we pick one?<br>--[[== User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)permissions ==

If you decide to have I've modified the user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". I found it a bit odd that having created a picture on the front new user, I couldn't edit my own user page, keep it interesting by changing it every week. Otherwise.. Given that spambots are a non-issue now, once this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people arenhopefully we't likely to look at it very oftenll be ok. --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1309:4625, 31 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think it is an improvement, carry on and add/edit as necessary which is the idea of a == Wiki; stopping for votes just delays things. Worth adding a note in the summary if comment is required, eg if I had a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead?”.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:32, 31 January 2015 (UTC)bot ==

I've m playing around with making an "protectedsvrwikibot" the front page, logo and maps mainly to prevent any malicious edits. We haven't had much spam yet, but there was the possibility that someone could alter do the front page to something unwantedupdate that Robin currently does. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>I created the logo in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for ve gone with the chocolate & cream[https://www. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebookmediawiki. If anyone's got the correct colour codesorg/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot Pywikibot] framework, I'll do because a new one.<br>) I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>There's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profile, taking up the full width of the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depthcode Python and b) it works. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage set. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 09:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts on picturesIf anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to do, following a revisit to Festipedialet me know.--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:They have a picture of the month on the front page. Would that be a reasonable frequency to adopt27, especially as the mods would presumably have to change it?9 October 2017 (UTC):They also have a lot of historical photos 'from the collection'Alright, especially on the loco pages. Does the SVR have a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and hold your breath - if soit's working, is anyone on speaking terms with the owner(s) who could broach bot will now update the subject of adding some here? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service main page comment at 5am BST (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?4am GMT), and also early days of the SVR in preservationdaily...<br>--[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1210:5201, 2 February 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

::If there was a 'like' button on here, I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it to carry out. Most of the bot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></nowiki> to bullet format and so on. Not a particular priority here in my view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is caused by the conflict with the terminology add-on (whose name I forget). Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that one? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC) ::: The addon in question is "Lingo". I remember hoping/expecting the software update earlier this year would fix it. However, it didn't, and at the time I did put in a report about the issue still being present. Looking back at the bug report, there's been no response or fix yet. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 08:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks, I thought it was a short name like that. It's not a showstopper, I'll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC) ::A small update to say that the bot seems to be working away quite happily, and on the few occasions I've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC) :Page history suggests the bot last updated on 7 April? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ==Changes needed please=Railway Heritage Register links update===A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on this page Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  == Schematic Map == I've created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the name as consistently used in SVR gala publications etc). I don't have the correct font to add any new text, ie "(Limited use)", but I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the additional text, unless Graham happens to read this and gets there first. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC):On the list current[[List of stations]] page I've minor edited the schematic to remove '(disused)' and change the icon colour for the station (look on the 'changes' to see what changes I made). How this might help I'm not sure, as that page doesn't use a .png file?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)::Helps greatly thanks - I hadn't realised how Graham created the original .png file until now. I've added '(Limited use)' which is in the correct font and created a new .png file from a screen grab, tweaking the size to match the original. I could use other wording such as 'Galas only' rather than 'Limited use' if preferred.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)