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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

We changed :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Capcha question Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to a dynamic one SVR Live that "Information which should have been harder is publicly accessible for spambots to crack.<br>It wasnenthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms't working as well as hoped, so I have now reworded the question to see if that's any better.<br>I believe it's possible to create different user groups with different posting rights, and so we could, for example move all the proven genuine contributors to a on."trusted" group so that they donHowever I can't have see photography policy on the new version, or on the inconvenience of having to solve a little puzzle every time SVR website either. Any idea where they want to make an edit. I'll look in to that later.<br>would be found these days?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:1350, 2 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Within an hour of making ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the above changes, we had a load more spam.<br>It seems old site seemed to follow a set pattern be horribly out of creating a new account date, and then a User Page, so I have disabled upon enquiring directly with the ability for the default user groupSVR on Facebook, "User", to create pages and manually added all the genuine contributors to a new User Group "Trustworthy".<br>If response I have missed you out, or if you have any other problems, you should still be able to edit this page, so either reply here, email got gave methe impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, or post on the forum or Facebook page and I'll sort rather than advertising it out.<br>online? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1209:5152, 2 March 2015 5 January 2017 (UTC)

I've moved all :In terms of setting it up, the known genuine contributors to unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a "Trustworthy" user group and removed page creation rights from all othersphotography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.<br>They're still getting through though somehow, so I have just disabled the ability to write directly to the APIhtm here].<br>I'm not too sure what this means myself, but I think it's a way There may be some good ideas to bypass the normal page creation method and, as I can't see any legitimate reason to use be had from it, and there was an option to disable it, that's what I've done.<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1716:0755, 3 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

: :Thank you. A job for when I suspect that that is how they were getting through without page creation rights - basically it means sending the command to create a page directly without loading up the "Creating page..." form first.have some time :)--[[User:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|WillSaltPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 2212:1728, 3 March 2015 18 January 2017 (UTC)

:::As a low grade entry point I note that have added to the bots seem [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page some basic details with an idea to be registering, but not actually making any edits currently - am I right to think that? add a simple [[From The last time that I can see a spam Window]] type guide page *created* is the 27th of Febwhen locations are populated. I've also fiddled with the settings a bit moreWhat do people think?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, and it definitely should be only allowing users with confirmed emails to edit/create/whatever now 11 February 2018 (plus the Trustworthy group, of courseUTC).

::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be good to illustrate each page with a photo taken from that location as well. --[[User:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|Danny252Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:0234, 4 March 2015 12 February 2018 (UTC)

==Stourport Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main line|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. No reason we couldn't have such a page, but it would be a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and Tenbury branchesallow people to backfill? Or let it ride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know if this is comprehensive? Then again, I'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Would it be more correct to refer to these as the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line ==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I'm seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the map carriage and alter loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the linksadministrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page titles names to dates and redirects to suit?vice versa. It should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:My inclination Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not to bother (to working as it should. Editing the page also updates the casual SVR visitordisplayed date, both are branches off so the line they are error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help onthe [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]])08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation... The former various Time and Date functions use the time the page was simply last rendered in to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a continuation non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the old SVR On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a line in itselfsingle full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest LineJust having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, Tenbury Line so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and Tenbury Branch; Google favours the former but is not adjusting for BST. I'd be interested might look in to dig out that one at some original sources point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to see what refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the commonest usage was at proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I donthought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't think anyone browsing seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the wiki will get too confused pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it standsmyself when time permits).::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1815:32, 6 February 2015 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

OK:I thought it had been working fine, I've changed the link on the map but today it is linking to point to Wyre Forest LineJune 20 when not logged in, while keeping "Tenbury Branch" on the map itselfeven though a page exists for June 25. As the Wyre Forest Line article says, most Kidderminster to Bewdley trains continued towards Tenbury, so Not sure if anythingit is a coincidence, but the Bridgnorth line home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the branch. Howeverback end, going by the fact that the disused line branches away at 90 degrees apart from the currently used lineswitching Lingo back on? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 19:58, it seems more intuitive to refer to it as the branch in a modern context.25 June 2017 (UTC)

==Logo==Would it be a good idea to have a suitable SVR image or logo on ::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, the main next and previous pagelinks on 'August 4' and other days works fine. For When I log in they stop working, replaced by a visitor seeing grey box with a dash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the page for the first timesame and if so, it would give them some any idea what it was all about. Yeswhy? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:37, I know it should be obvious, but...... 4 August 2017 (UTC)

:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I've finally got the Previous & Next links working. It turns out it needs spaces either side of the + & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I've got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, or why it used to work and then stopped working, but it works now. I'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though. It looks like we need a bot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, but creating a bot is beyond me at the moment.--[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0009:0944, 13 January 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)

::::Thanks - I've been thinking the same (ll keep manually updating if I just mentioned remember and nobody else beats me to it in one of the forum threads). I guess the main question is whether the SVR would be happy with us using its logo - it's starting to sound like we'll need to get in contact with the office at some point on a few of these things. If they decide not-[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 05:51, does someone feel suitably arty?7 August 2017 (UTC)

: For completeness, this issue has been "solved" through the use of the Svrwikibot, per Graham's suggestion --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 0914:2307, 13 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps As of today it's bringing up the page for February 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC):It's been broken for a while now. Danny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and once it does then the meanwhile we should've adopted on this day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the SVR Online logo. Also; starting to add headings here to separate topics. home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link!) I hope youdon're all OK t know to restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with thisaccess to the back end and a bit of knowledge. Maybe Graham or Will could have a look at some point? --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0915:3937, 1 February 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I emailed marketing@svrlive'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]].com on 16th January It reports part of the content being not secure and is referring to ask permission to use something in version 1241 which was the version before the official SVR logohttps upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and IE. I haven't heard back yetIt loads fine when logged in, so I've gone and used assume it anywaymay be another caching issue. If I get Did we have a threatening letter from their solicitorsback end utility for refreshing all the pages and if so, I'll change could one of the admins run it back again. ? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0717:5653, 2 February 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better: I wasn't getting a secure content warning, but the page wasn't loading correctly for me either. I can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that page manually, and I think I found a script I can set to run every so often to clear the whole cache - did you identify any other pages, and if so, can you check them now? --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 0816:0527, 2 February 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We::I selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be others, although I'll probably spend ve not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot of time providing info about I can add on the SVRdiagnostices, except:::*IE shows a text only page, but we also need to show where and it is includes a line saying for people who come across this wiki example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers& decide the railway might be worth a visitoldid=8055’</nowiki>''. So, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding a suitable size image of Clicking the UK that can be used, with a highlighted area showing exactly where link takes you to the Railway is, then showing an enlargement of old page on the area alongside non-secure site. It also shows a box at the UK image with bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the main stations highlighted and same but without the course of the railwaypop up box.::--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:::I get the same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the page isn't loading the style (or any pictures) is why that occurs. I've reset some more of the cache settings, which seems to have fixed it. I don't understand some of this dark voodoo... --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1118:3924, 13 January 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)

On ===Loss of session data===In the subject of maps, last few weeks I've adapted the map at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] noticed that from time to only show as much of time the SVR as Wiki is currently logging me off in usemid-edit. It works OK on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox With a normal log in, my sandbox], but not here http://www.svrwiki.com/Mapstatus is changed to logged out (ie the top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of course I can't save the page.<br>If I gather I need to import the template that have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the map top right button is based on, still showing 'Log out' but I canget the message ''t find instructions on how Sorry! We could not process your edit due to do thata loss of session data. You might have been logged out.<br>I was going '' Abandoning the edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to duplicate the full GWR/SVR map log out and create a more detailed map, showing more features as wellin again.<br>Is it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create there anything unusual happening at the maps some other wayserver back end?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:4220, 14 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

I was looking on ===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same pagedate stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], then thought I would do a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from it appears that - then scan & upload it. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead recent versions of doing other things!! In answer MediaWiki have removed the signature button that used to your question, I donbe shown when editing 'normal't know how to edit that template to how you want pages; itstill appears when editing Discussion pages. There is a '''[https://www. May mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be better added back in specific pages. Could one of the admins see if it is possible to draw a new versionadd this configuration variable so the button can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 1110:00, 14 January 2015 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

===Service Unavailable message===While I think the main issue is that the map requires a standard set of images (about 3000!) that exist on Wikipedia, which you can tile together to show the layout (e.g. plain track, station, disused station, and so on), as well as all 'm in the templates it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it overBug reports page, but I don't know if it would be m seeing a good idea message from time to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively to copy the whole lot over with a lot of redundant bits, but with the flexibility to make more in future. time as follows:

--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15 Service Unavailable<br> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.<br> Additionally, 14 January 2015 (UTC)a 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I was hoping it would be possible to import the template and just those icons used as itIt is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes's but occasionally when accessing a handy way of linking directly to stations on the line directly from the mapnormal page.I was then going to create Been happening for a more detailed map showing all the bridges etccouple of months now. with a link to each.Maybe I'm asking too much and it would be best to stick Another one for Graham or Will to have a normal image file of a map.look at if possible? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1215:5541, 14 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Back again, just I've modified the user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". I found an example on it a bit odd that having created a wikinew user, there is an image where you can click on the different people you can seeI couldn't edit my own user page.. http://www.mediawikiGiven that spambots are a non-issue now, hopefully we'll be ok.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap--[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1509:0925, 14 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I've been spending far too long on this as wellm playing around with making an "svrwikibot", but mainly to do the front page update that Robin currently does. I've finally got there.<br>Click on the town names on gone with the [[Map | Map]] https://www.<br>It takes a bit of trial and error to get the box coordinates in the right place, but I think this is a better than the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interest, such as the Engine Housemediawiki. --[[Userorg/wiki/Manual:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]Pywikibot Pywikibot]framework, because a) 01:46, 15 January 2015 (UTCI can code Python and b)it works.

Some good work thereIf anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to do, let me know. The main thing now is to get a suitable map - -[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC): Alright, hold your breath - if it's working, the OS maps bot will presumably somewhat awkward, given that now update the "Kidderminster" label is nearer to Bewdley Station than Kidder! main page comment at 5am BST (4am GMT) daily... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:1401, 15 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I ::If there was a 'like the map ' button on the front page. here, I'd press it! Would I'm not sure about other functions for it to carry out. Most of the bot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be worth putting formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></nowiki> to bullet format and so on each . Not a particular priority here in my view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, which would cause a problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is caused by the conflict with the station pages to show their positioning terminology add-on the SVR(whose name I forget). Presumably we haven't got anywhere with resolving that one?--[[User:Brick60000Robin|Brick60000Robin]] ([[User talk:Brick60000Robin|talk]]) 1614:1710, 16 January 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Up to now::::Thanks, everyoneI thought it was a short name like that. It's been making changes without consulting anyone else. There haven't been any disputes yet, but should we be putting things to not a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OKshowstopper, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding the maps and logo? I 'll just went ahead and did itkeep putting references inside punctuation at the end of formatted paragraphs pending developments. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have a picture on the front page? How do we pick one?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0813:4353, 31 January 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

If you decide ::A small update to say that the bot seems to have a picture be working away quite happily, and on the front pagefew occasions I've checked, keep it interesting by changing it every week. Otherwise, once the "On this wiki nears completion (if that is ever likely to happen) people aren't likely to look at it very oftenday" link has been correct. --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1314:4604, 31 January 2015 30 October 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think it is an improvement, carry Page history suggests the bot last updated on and add/edit as necessary which is the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays things. Worth adding a note in the summary if comment is required, eg if I had a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead7 April?”.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1723:3234, 31 January 2015 11 April 2018 (UTC)

::Indeed! It seems I've "protected" might have to occasionally re-confirm the front page, logo and maps to prevent any malicious edits. We haven't had much spam yetlogin details, but there was the possibility or else that someone could alter the front page it somehow forgot how to something unwanted. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of the administrators can do it.<br>I created the logo in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for the chocolate & cream. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got the correct colour codes, I'll do a new one.<br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>There's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profile, taking up the full width of the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depth. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage setlogin. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 09:2729, 1 February 2015 12 April 2018 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on pictures9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, following a revisit the On this day link goes to Festipedia.:They have a picture of the month on last day the front pagewas updated rather than the current day. Would that It may be a reasonable frequency coincidence but both times it seems to adopt, especially as the mods would presumably have to change it?:They also have a lot of historical photos 'from the collection', especially on the loco pagesstopped after 6 months. Does the SVR Could you have a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and if so, is anyone on speaking terms with the owner(s) who could broach the subject of adding some herelook please? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservationTIA.<br>--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1210:5242, 2 February 2015 1 April 2020 (UTC)

==Changes needed please=Railway Heritage Register links update===A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on this page Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  == Schematic Map == I've created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the name as consistently used in SVR gala publications etc). I don't have the correct font to add any new text, ie "(Limited use)", but I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the additional text, unless Graham happens to read this and gets there first. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC):On the list current[[List of stations]] page I've minor edited the schematic to remove '(disused)' and change the icon colour for the station (look on the 'changes' to see what changes I made). How this might help I'm not sure, as that page doesn't use a .png file?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)