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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo

As an additional measure, IAlso a does and don've also enabled blacklisting of known spam sources, as per [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam#DNSBL this ts section], and have turned on the requirement for email addresses to be verified (I noted that none of the bots had emails registeredtrespass etc.). I note there's a couple of people who haven't got confirmed email addresses, but most people should be fine - if you need to confirm your address, you can find the option under "Preferences" in the top right corner, then by scrolling down to almost the bottom of the page of options.

Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I've enabled [httpOfficial response from Lewis Maddox://www"Great idea, if you need any photos let me know.mediawiki" So, going back to the original post, what's the best way of setting it up? Does it need a table with the headings I suggested.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Is there a better way? This might be one where a similar blacklist] as welllittle thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 2213:3206, 6 February 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

We changed :Just while thinking about it, on the [[Current events on the Capcha question Severn Valley Railway]] page, I put a comment relating to a dynamic one SVR Live that "Information which should have been harder is publicly accessible for spambots to crack.<br>It wasnenthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, '''lineside photography policy and application forms't working as well as hoped, so I have now reworded the question to see if that's any better.<br>I believe it's possible to create different user groups with different posting rights, and so we could, for example move all the proven genuine contributors to a on."trusted" group so that they donHowever I can't have see photography policy on the new version, or on the inconvenience of having to solve a little puzzle every time SVR website either. Any idea where they want to make an edit. I'll look in to that later.<br>would be found these days?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1016:1350, 2 March 2015 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Within an hour of making ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the above changes, we had a load more spam.<br>It seems old site seemed to follow a set pattern be horribly out of creating a new account date, and then a User Page, so I have disabled upon enquiring directly with the ability for the default user groupSVR on Facebook, "User", to create pages and manually added all the genuine contributors to a new User Group "Trustworthy".<br>If response I have missed you out, or if you have any other problems, you should still be able to edit this page, so either reply here, email got gave methe impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, or post on the forum or Facebook page and I'll sort rather than advertising it out.<br>online? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 1209:5152, 2 March 2015 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Would it be more correct to refer to these as the Stourport Line and Wyre Forest Line on the map and alter the links::Thank you. A job for when I have some time :)--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, page titles and redirects to suit?18 January 2017 (UTC)

:My inclination would be not to bother (to the casual SVR visitor, both are branches off the line they are on). The former was simply ::As a continuation of the old SVR rather than a line in itself. The latter seems interchangeable between Wyre Forest Line, Tenbury Line and Tenbury Branch; Google favours the former but low grade entry point I'd be interested have added to dig out the [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page some original sources basic details with an idea to see what the commonest usage was at the timeadd a simple [[From The Window]] type guide page when locations are populated. I don't What do people think anyone browsing the wiki will get too confused as it stands.?--[[User:RobinPatrick Hearn|RobinPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:RobinPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 1810:3255, 6 11 February 2015 2018 (UTC)

OK, ::::Looks good. I've changed the link on the map to point to Wyre Forest Line, while keeping "Tenbury Branch" on the map itselfadded some directions. As the Wyre Forest Line article says, most Kidderminster It would be good to Bewdley trains continued towards Tenbury, so if anything, the Bridgnorth line was the branch. However, going by the fact illustrate each page with a photo taken from that the disused line branches away at 90 degrees from the currently used line, it seems more intuitive to refer to it location as the branch in a modern contextwell.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

==LogoLocomotives hired to or visiting other railways==Would it be a good idea to We have a suitable sections for locos coming in, are there equivalents for SVR image or logo -resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC): Off the top of my head, no section exists yet. The exception would be for [[The Severn Valley Railway on the main pageline|main line excursions]], which are listed on the linked locomotive pages, but not many of those happen these days! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 13:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)::Some individual loco pages also mention longer term hires to other railways, but you're right in that there is no equivalent section for gala appearances elsewhere. For No reason we couldn't have such a visitor seeing the page for the first time, but it would give them some idea what be a major exercise to backfill the history.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC):::Thanks both. Do you think we should we start one with 2017 galas out as an incomplete page, and allow people to backfill? Or let it was all aboutride?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 02:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)::::If you're eager, go ahead - just look how the [http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index. Yesphp?title=Steam_Locomotives_visiting_the_SVR_for_galas&oldid=1151 gala visitors] page started! I have to admit I don't really know where to find historical information; the SVR News sometimes mentions locos going off on hire, but I don't know it should be obviousif this is comprehensive? Then again, butI'm sure Robin will find all the information about 7714's visit to the Little Piddling and Nowhere Railway's 1976 gala...--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC):::::It must have been there as a static exhibit - according to the SVR Wiki it wasn't steamed until 1992... --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 13:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

==Bug reports=====Navbox error===I'm seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the carriage and loco pages. Anyone else? Can one of the administrators have a look please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was something I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page names to dates and vice versa. It should be working again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed. Belated thanks.--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0016:0918, 13 January 2015 24 May 2017 (UTC)

===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've been thinking changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the same wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I just mentioned think it 's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in one to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the forum threadslink using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]])22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I guess couldn't fix it properly, so the main question external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the SVR time on it! It would be happy with us using its logo an idea to update the pre- 1963 map page to use local icons as well; it's starting can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to sound like we'll need do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to get ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in contact with them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the office at some point block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a few better way of these thingsgetting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency. If they decide not--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, does someone feel suitably arty?2 June 2017 (UTC)

:I thought it had been working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in, even though a page exists for June 25. Not sure if it is a coincidence, but the home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in the back end, apart from switching Lingo back on? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 0919:2358, 13 January 2015 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps ::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, the meanwhile we shouldnext and previous page links on 'August 4've adopted the SVR Online logo. Also; starting to add headings here to separate topicsand other days works fine. When I hope you're all OK log in they stop working, replaced by a grey box with thisa dash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, any idea why? --[[User:BoldfordRobin|BoldfordRobin]] ([[User talk:BoldfordRobin|talk]]) 0914:3937, 1 February 2015 4 August 2017 (UTC)

:::It took a bit of trial and error, but I emailed marketing@svrlive've finally got the Previous & Next links working.com on 16th January to ask permission to use It turns out it needs spaces either side of the official SVR logo+ & - signs when searching for Pagename + 1 day etc. I haven't heard back yetve got no idea why it worked when logged out, but not when logged in, so I've gone or why it used to work and used then stopped working, but it anywayworks now. If I get 'm still stuck on the out of date On This Day link though. It looks like we need a threatening letter from their solicitorsbot to automatically edit the page at 00:01 every day, I'll change it back againbut creating a bot is beyond me at the moment. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 0709:5644, 2 February 2015 6 August 2017 (UTC)

That logo looks much better! ::::Thanks - I'll keep manually updating if I remember and nobody else beats me to it.--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 0805:0551, 2 February 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)

==Location==We'll probably spend a lot of time providing info about the SVR: For completeness, but we also need to show where it is for people who come across this wiki & decide issue has been "solved" through the railway might be worth a visit. So, for those arty people amongst us, how about finding a suitable size image use of the UK that can be usedSvrwikibot, with a highlighted area showing exactly where the Railway isper Graham's suggestion --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:07, then showing an enlargement of the area alongside the UK image with the main stations highlighted and the course of the railway.30 October 2017 (UTC)

As of today it's bringing up the page for February 28th, in error --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC):It's been broken for a while now. Danny's Wikibot seems to stop working after about 6 months, and once it does then the 'on this day' link only refreshes (as far as logged out users are concerned) when there is a change saved on the home page (ie usually every Monday when I update the article of the week link!) I don't know to restart the Wikibot - it needs someone with access to the back end and a bit of knowledge. Maybe Graham or Will could have a look at some point? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1115:3937, 13 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

On the subject of maps, ===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I've adapted the map at m finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[https://enGWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]].wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Severn_Valley_Railway_map] to only show as much It reports part of the SVR as content being not secure and is currently referring to something in use. It works OK on [version 1241 which was the version before the https://enupgrade.wikipediaHappens in both Chrome and IE.org/wiki/User:Graham_Phillips_110/sandbox my sandbox]It loads fine when logged in, but not here http://www.svrwiki.com/Map.<br>so I gather I need to import the template that the map is based on, but I can't find instructions on how to do thatassume it may be another caching issue.<br>I was going to duplicate Did we have a back end utility for refreshing all the full GWR/SVR map pages and create a more detailed mapif so, showing more features as well.<br>Is could one of the admins run it worth persevering, or would it just be easier to create the maps some other way?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1017:4253, 14 January 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)

: I was looking on wasn't getting a secure content warning, but the internet yesterday page wasn't loading correctly for suitable maps & saw me either. I can't say I understand where these odd little issues come from! I've fixed that very same pagemanually, then thought and I would do think I found a tracing from a map & then create my own simple map from that script I can set to run every so often to clear the whole cache - then scan & upload it. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead of doing did you identify any other things!! In answer to your questionpages, and if so, I don't know how to edit that template to how can you want it. May be better to draw a new versioncheck them now? --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1116:0027, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)

::I think the main issue is that the map requires a standard set of images selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (about 3000!body only) that exist on Wikipedia]]. There may be others, which you although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot I can tile together to show add on the layout (e.g. plain trackdiagnostices, station, disused stationexcept:::*IE shows a text only page, and so it includes a line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers&oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the link takes you to the old page on), as well as all the templates it pulls innon-secure site. It might be possible to copy it over, but I don't know if it would be also shows a good idea to pick and choose box at the bits we want, or alternatively to copy bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the whole lot over with a lot of redundant bits, same but with without the flexibility to make more in futurepop up box. ::--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:::I get the same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from" is apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the page isn't loading the style (or any pictures) is why that occurs. I've reset some more of the cache settings, which seems to have fixed it. I don't understand some of this dark voodoo... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 1218:1524, 14 January 2015 18 December 2017 (UTC)

===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I was hoping it would be possible 've noticed that from time to import time the template and just those icons used as it's Wiki is logging me off in mid-edit. With a handy way of linking directly normal log in, my status is changed to stations on logged out (ie the line directly from top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of course I can't save the mappage.If I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I was then going get the message ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to create a more detailed map showing all the bridges etcloss of session data. with a link to eachYou might have been logged out.Maybe I'm asking too much ' Abandoning the edit and restarting it would be best then works fine without actually needing to stick to a normal image file of a maplog out and in again.Is there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 1216:5520, 14 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)

I remember years ago using some free software ===Missing Signature button===Prompted by Patrick's comments "''(can't find the date stamp)''" in several posts in [[Query Corner#Santa services|Query Corner]], it appears that recent versions of MediaWiki have removed the signature button that allowed me used to add links from a word or words pasted into an image on my site. There may be something similar for a wiki if you have time to try & search for shown when editing 'normal' pages; itstill appears when editing Discussion pages. This was the sort of thing I just found after a search, but not within There is a wiki - http'''[https://www.onextrapixelmediawiki.comorg/exampleswiki/imageManual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration variable available here]''' which allows the button to be added back in specific pages. Could one of the admins see if it is possible to add this configuration variable so the button can be put back in Query Corner? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC):Done. --map/[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)::Thanks. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Back again===Service Unavailable message===While I'm in the Bug reports page, just found an example on I'm seeing a wiki, there is an image where you can click on the different people you can see. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap[[User:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk:Sharpo|talk]]) 15message from time to time as follows:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow Service Unavailable<br> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.<br> Additionally, took me a few hours to understand it, but I have learnt how 503 Service Unavailable error was encountered while trying to create more than one link from within use an image within a wiki. My own wiki test included 2 locos in a photo & moving the cursor ErrorDocument to either of handle the locos would give a link for that locorequest. [[User:Sharpo|Sharpo]] ([[User talk:Sharpo|talk]]) 21:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

IIt is usually when requesting a special page like 'recent changes've been spending far too long on this as well, but I've finally got thereoccasionally when accessing a normal page.<br>Click on the town names on the [[Map | Map]] .<br>It takes Been happening for a bit couple of trial and error months now. Another one for Graham or Will to get the box coordinates in the right place, but I think this is have a better than the standard route map as it allows linking of nearby features of interest, such as the Engine House. look at if possible? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0115:4641, 15 January 2015 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Some good work there. The main thing now is to get a suitable map - the OS maps will presumably somewhat awkward, given that the "Kidderminster" label is nearer to Bewdley Station than Kidder! --[[== User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)permissions ==

I like 've modified the map on the front user permissions so that new users can create articles and talk pages without being marked "trustworthy". I found it a bit odd that having created a new user, I couldn't edit my own user page. Would it .. Given that spambots are a non-issue now, hopefully we'll be worth putting on each of the station pages to show their positioning on the SVR?ok. --[[User:Brick60000Danny252|Brick60000Danny252]] ([[User talk:Brick60000Danny252|talk]]) 1609:1725, 16 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

==Making changesWiki bot ==

Up to now, everyoneI's been m playing around with making changes without consulting anyone else. There haven't been any disputes yetan "svrwikibot", but should we be putting things mainly to a vote first?<br>Minor edits of text should be OK, but what about more conspicuous changes like adding do the maps and logo? I just went ahead and did itfront page update that Robin currently does. Should we have discussed it first? I can easily undo it.<br>Should we have a picture on 've gone with the front page? How do we pick one?<br>--[[Userhttps:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Graham Phillips 110|talk]Pywikibot Pywikibot]framework, because a) 08:43, 31 January 2015 (UTCI can code Python and b)it works.

If you decide anyone has other ideas for things we could get the bot to have a picture on the front pagedo, keep it interesting by changing it every weeklet me know. Otherwise--[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:27, once this wiki nears completion 9 October 2017 (UTC): Alright, hold your breath - if that is ever likely to happen) people arenit't likely to look s working, the bot will now update the main page comment at it very often5am BST (4am GMT) daily... --[[User:SharpoDanny252|SharpoDanny252]] ([[User talk:SharpoDanny252|talk]]) 1310:4601, 31 January 2015 9 October 2017 (UTC)

:My 10p worth is so long as you think :If there was a 'like' button on here, I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it is an improvement, to carry out. Most of the bot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be formatting and addhousekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, changing links and references separated by <nowiki><br></edit as necessary which is the idea of a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays thingsnowiki> to bullet format and so on. Worth adding Not a note particular priority here in the summary if comment is requiredmy view. One of them moves references after closing punctuation, eg if I had which would cause a better logo problem on here because of our formatting issue (see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I don’t!think is caused by the conflict with the terminology add-on (whose name I forget) I would upload it and say “shall . Presumably we try this insteadhaven't got anywhere with resolving that one?”.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1714:3210, 31 January 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I've ::: The addon in question is "protectedLingo" . I remember hoping/expecting the front pagesoftware update earlier this year would fix it. However, logo and maps to prevent any malicious edits. We havenit didn't had much spam yet, but there was the possibility that someone could alter the front page to something unwanted. If anyone wants to make a genuine edit, they can put it here on the Talk page and one of at the administrators can do it.<br>time I created the logo did put in Paint on my PC and thought I'd got a reasonably good match for report about the chocolate & creamissue still being present. The cream looks a bit beige now on my chromebook. If anyone's got Looking back at the correct colour codesbug report, I'll do a new one.<br>I don't know if a picture as well as the two maps would be too much though?<br>Therethere's a random image extension for wikimedia which can be installed.<br>One idea I had was a long thin picture of a full train in profile, taking up the full width of the page, but only a couple of lines worth of depth. The picture could be selected at random from one of each carriage setbeen no response or fix yet. Worth a try?<br>--[[User:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|Graham Phillips 110Danny252]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Danny252|talk]]) 0908:2738, 1 February 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

A couple of thoughts on pictures, following a revisit to Festipedia.:They have a picture of the month on the front page. Would that be a reasonable frequency to adopt:::Thanks, especially as the mods would presumably have to change I thought it?:They also have was a lot of historical photos short name like that. It'from the collection', especially on the loco pages. Does the SVR have s not a similar collection (Kidderminster Railway Museum?) and if soshowstopper, is anyone on speaking terms with I'll just keep putting references inside punctuation at the owner(s) who could broach the subject end of adding some here? Particularly the SVR in GWR days and SVR locos in original service (did any of our current locos definitely work on the original SVR?), and also early days of the SVR in preservationformatted paragraphs pending developments.<br>--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1213:5253, 2 February 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)

::A small update to say that the bot seems to be working away quite happily, and on the few occasions I've checked, the "On this day" link has been correct. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 14:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC) :Page history suggests the bot last updated on 7 April? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::Indeed! It seems I might have to occasionally re-confirm the login details, or else that it somehow forgot how to login. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC) :Message for Graham in Dan's absence. Just noticed the Bot stopped working again on 9 October 2018 so if you are not logged in, the On this day link goes to the last day the page was updated rather than the current day. It may be a coincidence but both times it seems to have stopped after 6 months. Could you have a look please? TIA. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)  ===Railway Heritage Register links update=Changes needed please==A section The Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey and Wagon Survey have historically been hosted on vintagecarriagestrust.org, but are permanently moving to note any amendments a new host on 9 April. From a quick test today, the record numbers within URLs are the same on the old and new host, therefore all that is needed in the links is to update the host address. There is a second problem in that the text within the link normally takes the form of '... on this page vintagecarriagestrust.org' which also needs updating (for simplicity and clarity I suggest using '... on Railway Heritage Register On-Line' for both Carriages and Wagons). It would be a great help if these changes could be done by the bot. The 'search and replace' involved is:*Step 1: replace '''cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''cs.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 2: replace '''ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''ws.rhrp.org.uk'''*Step 3: replace '''on vintagecarriagestrust.org''' by '''on Railway Heritage Register On-Line'''Steps 1 and 2 should fix the relevant URLs, and step 3 the link wording for at least the attention majority of links. There are links in a number of different areas including current and former carriages and wagons etc.Hope that is possible.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC) == Mobile view ==:I don't think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not appear in Mobile view. This is apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a 'nice to have' rather than essential to navigation, but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the administratorsonly method of navigating to other history pages. Suggest It should be possible to create the same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we delete create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have to remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  :Something else I found that appears not to work in Mobile view. The [[Unsuccessful proposals for railways in the Severn Valley]] page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the number of items when done in the table of contents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)::Problem solved, thanks to help from the Mediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. I see in their response that we're due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC) == Featured article == I'll be busy for much of the next few weeks with moving, a honeymoon, and whatever else I've forgotten - if someone else wants to have a go at doing featured articles for a few weeks, feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC):Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the articles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  == Schematic Map == I've created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the name as consistently used in SVR gala publications etc). I don't have the correct font to add any new text, ie "(Limited use)", but I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the additional text, unless Graham happens to read this and gets there first. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC):On the [[List of stations]] page I've minor edited the schematic to remove '(disused)' and change the icon colour for the station (look on the list current'changes' to see what changes I made). How this might help I'm not sure, as that page doesn't use a .png file?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)