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== Ground Frames at Alveley, Foley Park, and Kidderminster ==
*It is known that Alveley Sidings had two ground frames, [[Alveley Sidings (North ) ground frame|North]] and [[Alveley Sidings (South ) ground frame|South]], and that the South survived into preservation for some years. However, details are incredibly sketchy! I have seen photos of special trains at Alveley in early days, perhaps one of these includes them?
* Foley Park Sidings almost certainly had at least one, possibly two, ground frames for access. I have no information on these. I have also come across a photo showing two temporary GFs on the SVR/BR boundary - see [[Ground Frames at Foley Park]] - but nothing else is known.
::For what it's worth the sets in use yesterday were: N(7) on AN1, C(7)+80969 on AS1 and DMU(4) on AS2. --[[User:WillSalt|WillSalt]] ([[User talk:WillSalt|talk]]) 16:31, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::Also FWIW M, C and S were in use today, so I've added them to the current configurations. Once we see how often they change, we can decide on the best way of keeping track, but probably one of Graham's suggestions.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
== Foundation/building behind Bewdley North Signal Box ==
A [https://www.facebook.com/groups/2360466988/permalink/10152856743536989/ Facebook discussion] has brought up [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/11174397_10204097765420037_5448357602381859999_o.jpg this image of a brick construction], situated behind Bewdley North signal box, with the question being what it actually was. Initial suggestions were that it might be an air raid shelter, but the lack of an entrance and strange siting seem to rule that out, and it has been mentioned that the brickwork seems similar to the the signal box itself. The leading suggestion now seems to be that it could have been a lamp hut, but with no real evidence other than it being of about the right size and in a sensible location.
Some alternative views can be found in [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beerdave1745/5011483860/in/set-72157625002985022 photo 1] and [http://www.train-photos.net/picture/show/17166/Bewdley-North-signal-box photo 2].
Does anyone have information as to the origin/history of the item? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
:I've added the combined thoughts of John Marshall, Michael V.E. Dunn and Keith Beddoes as they appeared in SVR news, see [[Bewdley North signal box#Lamp Room and plinth]]. Draw your own conclusions, for what it's worth I go with the John Marshall view that the plinth was built for the lamp room, typical GWR "when in doubt over-engineer it so it won't fall down".--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:10, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
==Width of Bridge 16 at Arley==
The [[Accommodation bridge south of Arley]] appears to be the only bridge not originally built to [[double track]] width.<br>
Does anyone know why? --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:Appeared as the daily question on [[Daily_Question#17th|17th November]], although no definite answer was given. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 11:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
==Potentially dated statements==
There are a number of articles containing potentially dated statements.<br>
Can you help with any of these?
*[[Peckett_1738]] Is it still at Titley Junction Station in Herefordshire?
:I don't know., but a Facebook posting by the owner in June 2020 said she had suffered poor health for 5 years with a brain tumour but is in remission. They intend to reopen in 2021 "When the current restrictions are lifted we would love to welcome you to Titley, for a Jolly on the engines and afternoon tea." The Railway Magazine July 2020 reports the Class 03 D2158 has moved to Mangapps Farm.--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:08, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::Page updated 2022 with a further sighting at Titley Junction.
*[[LNWR 76738 (fictitious) 4-Wheel Tranship Van]] Is it still in Kidderminster Carriage Shed?
::Updated. Bridgnorth cattle dock--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 01:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
==Bridgnorth Bus Garage==
One of the buildings in the old coal yard between Kidderminster station and the Footbridge is the restored ex-Bridgnorth bus garage, of which details and a picture can be found on the Friends of Kidderminster Station website [http://www.kfriends.org.uk/projects/busgarage.htm here]. Is this the same building that can be seen just behind the pannier tank in this Sellick photograph? It would seem a logical place for it.
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--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
:Self answered question. Yes it was.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
==Bridge 27==
Not been in query corner for a while, but here's two for the price of one. Looking at the [[Occupation bridge near Eardington ground frame]] the other day, I noticed a couple of oddities. Firstly the bridge is No 27 in the [[List of infrastructure]], but has an obvious number 32 in the style used for bridge numbering (left of the photo). Were the bridges renumbered at some point? Secondly, there is a sign saying (I think) "Huxleyheath Junction". I know the location of the [[Eardington ground frame | Ground Frame]] used to be called Osborne Junction, but is there any reason for the name there now?
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--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
: I think that sign is very recent - I don't remember seeing it when I walked past a month ago! Sadly I can't say I definitively know the answer... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 22:28, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
::Just a guess, but there's about five more bridges between Hartlebury and Bewdley than there are between Kidderminster and Bewdley. Could that be the original SVB number? If so, it's very durable paint. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 05:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Was yellow spray paint used in the 1960s or earlier? Maybe... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
::::I think Graham is on the right track (sorry!). Engine Shed Underpass (now Bridge 36) has a similar looking number 40 visible from platform 1. If BR bridge 32 at Eardington became SVR bridge 27 (-5), and BR bridge 40 at Bridgnorth became SVR bridge 36 (-4), then there is one more numbered bridge between Eardington and Bridgnorth in preservation than there was under BR. The Bypass bridge post-dates BR.... --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
== Motorised Points ==
When point(s) at crossing loops were motorised in the 1930s, were any signals motorised at the same time? [[User:SevenHills|SevenHills]] ([[User talk:SevenHills|talk]]) 07:19, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
* [[Coalport]] G.F.
* [[Cressage]]
* [[Berrington]] [[User:SevenHills|SevenHills]] ([[User talk:SevenHills|talk]]) 07:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
: I dare say I've never heard of any motor-operated signals on the line, and wouldn't really have expected them, given that the distances to signals were generally less than they are now (not many 1000-yard signals back then!). Still, never say never... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 08:38, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
==Wagons December 2017==
Two Parr wagons joined the SVR. From photos these are 967577 and 96752n [incomplete]. Can someone confirm identities?
There are three dogfish, two have moved to the Swanage Railway. Which, please? Thanks
Patrick 9/1/18 (can't find the date stamp)
: All wagons now identified. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 19:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
==Rapier H7 Crane==
Eric Tyler on [https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-general-discussion.333307/page-29#post-2132557|Nat Pres] is seeking information on a road vehicle Rapier H7 Crane, he thinks that the SVR had one in 2010. Is the Crane is still at the SVR, and any contact for information would be appreciated.Thanks
Patrick 2/5/18 (can't find the date stamp)
==Santa services==
The [[December 23]] page says 193 hauled the first Santas in 1973. The [http://www.southdevonrailwayassociation.org/Caernarfon.html SDR] claims Carnavon carried Santa in 1969.
Patrick 16/9/18 (can't find the date stamp)
:I can't find any mention of it in either SVR News or Chris Magner's book. Since the LRO wasn't granted until 1970, it could presumably only have been a static event at Bridgnorth, so it wouldn't have been classed as as a 'Santa Service'. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 18:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
::[[August 31]] says "1968 A three day gala began at Bridgnorth, with trains running to Hampton Loade using 46443 and 43106. Travel required a 'day membership', as the SVR had not been granted an LRO at that stage." I guess it's possible a similar arrangement could have been in place?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 20:58, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't think so. Chris Magner's book states "''For various reasons BR had to advise the SVR that train operations had to be suspended in 1969 and this was a big blow as the Company needed the revenues from train operation in order to raise the money to purchase the line''." He doesn't say exactly when in 1969, but that section of his book is pretty much in chronological order and it comes between other events in January and February 1969. As far as I can see, that suspension was not rescinded until the LRO was granted in May 1970, so I don't think any passengers could have been carried in December 1969. From the SDR's wording "''It spent the winter of 1969/70 on engineering trains. It was also used by Father Christmas as his means of transport at Christmas 1969''", Santa may have 'arrived' by steam for a static event although nothing was recorded in SVR News if he did.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 22:09, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
::::The '50 years in steam' virtual exhibition, due to COVID-19 restrictions has an image of Santa in a horse drawn cart: "Our very first visit by Santa was on 24 November 1968, when he arrived at Bridgnorth by train and then spent the day seeing children in a High Street store." The exhibition curator is Tony Bending--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 13:20, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::Tony Bending (20 July 2020): "The very first Santa visit was a staged affair, really organised by, I think, Dillons store in the High Street. They wanted a novel way for Santa to arrive, so the train, then a horse and cart, worked quite well. Actually, from our point of view, all we did was propel a coach just out of the station before the event, and later on, at the appropriate time, we simply rolled back in! It went down well with the locals, and as you are well aware we never looked back after that, and our own Santas have gone from strength to strength. As far as Caernavon goes I personally can’t recall it in use, but it may well have been the loco if the idea was repeated in 1969. As far as 193 is concerned it certainly hauled Santa trains, which in those early days went to a grotto at Hampton Loade. Somewhere I have a slide or two of it at Hampton with Santa on the front of the engine! In the early days before the LRO we offered “day membership” to visitors, but a rival preservation scheme complained to the powers that be that, since they couldn’t operate trains, how come we were doing it? BR therefore had no real option but to stop us as well – spoilsports! I’ll see what else I can find in the archives, and I’ve copied this to DCW since his recollections may also produce some interesting facts." David Williams 23 July 2020: "You were right about the one-coach Santa arrivals at Bridgnorth station from Cleobury road bridge. These were powered by 46443 on Saturday, 21st December 1968, and 5474 Carnarvon on Saturday, 20th December 1969. There is picture of the latter on page 23 of my 1974 book ‘Severn Valley Railway Album’." David's date 21.12.1968 for 46443 does not tie up with the exhibition photo (24.11.68). [[Christmas services]] is updated--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 18:17, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::Red face time - I have a copy of David's 1974 book, but had never noticed the reference to the 1969 Santa operation under the photo on page 23. Thanks for the update. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 21:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
==Mystery object==
[[File:Highley_Plant_20190217.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Seen at Highley, February 2019]]
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This piece of on-track plant was at Highley last weekend. Can anyone shed any light on what it is, what it does, and whether it is on hire or has been acquired? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
:Note to self, see the [https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4230 SVR-online forum] thread for the partial answer.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 12:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
::See item in use 24 July 2020 on [https://www.facebook.com/HamptonLoadeStation/photos/a.678368795638003/1894700307338173/ Hampton Loade Station Facebook page]
:::Thanks - I'll add a page for it when I get a chance.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
==GWR Pannier Tank 6430==
Paul Fisher on FB says 6430 in 1996 spent some time having cracked cylinder blocks repaired at the Valley. Can anyone verify details, so it can ve added to the Timeline? Thanks--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 19:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
:The only reference I can find in SVR News is the Locomotive Notes in SVR News 119, Summer 1996 under 'Contract Work'. "''6430 (GWR 0-6-0 pannier tank); the complete cylinder block has arrived from the Llangollen Railway, to have specialist welding carried out on its left hand cylinder bore and to have its valve faces machined; it will possibly need new cylinder liners.''" There was no follow up report on the work being completed and it does not state whether the whole loco ever attended or just the cylinder block. Around that time there was a lot of contract work being done; the same issue mentioned that since the previous winter the SVR had made and installed 12 valve and 2 cylinder liners under contract, and as well as 6430 also referred to work in progress on 4277, 6984 Owsden Hall, 5542 75014, and 6023 King Edward II. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 21:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
==To Do list==
Not a query as such, more a list of photos to take and information to research etc..
* Fill in gaps in the table for the location of various [[Goods Wagons]]
::We probably need a standard 'location' description for wagons (and carriages) that are in use and move up and down the line on a regular basis. "In service"?
* Photograph lever leads and create table for [[Highley signal box]].
* Create a page for the [[Permanent Way Department]], [[Signals & Telegraph Department]] and various other departments.
* Find and photograph all the [[Goods_Wagons#Containers_and_Grounded_Wagon_Bodies | Conflat containers]]
* Additional items on [[Other rolling stock formerly resident on the SVR]] (especially Wickham trolleys, tampers etc) and [[Other rolling stock visiting the SVR]]
* Missing information on locomotive mileages for various years from 2004 onwards (n.b., the cumulative table to 2004 in SVR News 152 contained several apparent errors)
* Add Infobox for Wagon pages where necessary - also add TOPS code to Infobox and populate
* Add additional 'On this day in history' entries (ongoing)
* ''Create pages for track maintenance plant at Highley and Road Railers'': Done for those on which I have any information.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
* Update [[Carriages#The_carriage_sets]] to show current formations.
*Photographs needed;
::Various culverts etc. on [[Wyre Forest District Council Local Heritage List]]
::''Road Railers'':Done for those of which I had photos.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
* Add slogans and campaigns to the [[Marketing Department]] page
* Add more photography locations
* Complete Class 50 mainline appearances
* Find and photograph boundary markers. Rumoured to be one at Hoo Road Bridge (requires track side access).
* Add a picture to every page. I've noticed that when someone posts a link to Facebook, it grabs the first picture on the page. If there is no picture, it uses the copyright notice at bottom right, rather than the logo at top left, which ends up as a meaningless grey blur.
::The solution to this is to add <nowiki><!--[[File:Svrwikilogo.jpg]]--></nowiki> at the bottom of the page. Mediawiki sees this as a comment, so doesn't display it, yet Facebook still picks it up as a valid image. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 09:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
* 5700 Class boilers. I recall reading that 5764 and 7714 are different, one with back and one with top feed boilers. At 7714's last overhaul the boiler being used was rebuilt to utilise the feed authentic to that engine. With the [[3612]] page now there, is it possible to identify which is which?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 17:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
*Add DCIII to terminology. 5 items refer to it. I'm a know-nothing and had to look it up [http://www.gwr.org.uk/nowagonbrakes.html here]--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 23:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
*Update [[:Category:Rolling stock at the Stourport Triangle|rolling stock at the Stourport triangle]]. I've seen pictures of a big clear up over a couple of years with suggestions rolling stock has been relocated