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==SpambotsSVR Unofficial Forum and National Preservation links (March 2018, updated February 2024) ==There are many links to these sources but both have moved, viz:*All requests to access the forum via https://forum.svra.org.uk should automatically be forwarded onto https://forum.svr-online.org.uk. However, please update any Bookmarks you may have and start using the new address. EDIT: February 2024, use https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ *<nowiki>http://railway.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/</nowiki> is now https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/Are there any tools that can be run which at least changes the root? Or any clever ideas?:Maybe the SVR Wiki Bot could hunt for those links and edit as appropriate? One for Dan?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2018 (UTC)::The bot probably is the simplest answer - I'd usually just run a search-and-replace on the text, but it's all squirreled away in a database, which is a little more difficult! This also happens to be the first I've heard of the change, given that the old link is inaccessible for me due to the security configuration of the old forum address being incorrect. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 10:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC):::Turns out the bot comes with a script for text replacement included - I guess it's not that surprising! It's currently working its way through the wiki. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::I've managed to get the SVRA forum ones, but the only match the bot is finding for the NatPres link given is this page. Could someone link a page where the link is used so I can see what I've got wrong? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)::::[[The Waterman Railway Heritage Trust]], reference 5 for example. It normally appears in references rather than the body text if that makes a difference. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC):::::Aha, there's a change at the start of the link (railways.national-preservation vs. www.national-preservation) - I'd only noticed the addition of the number after the thread name. Hence I'd been searching for "www.national-preservation[...]" and only finding the new, corrected link above. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)::::::...having actually done it, the only references to railways.national-preservation.com are on this talk page and the one you linked. I can't find any references to the SVR photo guide forum thread that aren't on this page, and all other nat-pres links I can find (by directly searching through a text dump of the whole wiki) look like they should work. --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 12:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC):::I noticed that SVRLive links should also be HTTPS, although again they were forwarding automatically. Having decided to do a manual search, hopefully all Nat-Pres, SVR-Online forum and SVRLive links in the Wiki are now HTTPS.:February 2024: the history of the SVR forum can be accessed via the Wayback internet archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20230524021410/https://forum.svr-online.org.uk/ --[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 15:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. I've been modifying the Captcha questions m not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought though, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to try and find what works best, and SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the number at least seems to be reduced.afternoon than morning type thingExample photo
Thoughts?--[[User:Danny252Patrick Hearn|Danny252Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Danny252Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1610:4155, 6 February 2015 19 December 2016 (UTC):I'd erred away from doing one in the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railway. However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good start.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
: :Thank you. A job for when I suspect that that is how they were getting through without page creation rights - basically it means sending the command to create a page directly without loading up the "Creating page..." form first.have some time :)--[[User:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|WillSaltPatrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:WillSaltPatrick Hearn|talk]]) 2212:1728, 3 March 2015 18 January 2017 (UTC)
:::As a low grade entry point I note that have added to the bots seem [[Bewdley International Airport|Bewdley Airport]] page some basic details with an idea to be registering, but not actually making any edits currently - am I right to think that? add a simple [[From The last time that I can see a spam Window]] type guide page *created* is the 27th of Febwhen locations are populated. I've also fiddled with the settings a bit moreWhat do people think?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 10:55, and it definitely should be only allowing users with confirmed emails to edit/create/whatever now 11 February 2018 (plus the Trustworthy group, of courseUTC).
::::Looks good. I've added some directions. It would be good to illustrate each page with a photo taken from that location as well. --[[User:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|Danny252Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Danny252Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 10:0234, 4 March 2015 12 February 2018 (UTC)
==LogoBug reports==Would it be a good idea to have a suitable SVR image or logo ===Navbox error===I'm seeing <nowiki>{{#invoke:Navbox|navbox}}</nowiki> instead of Navboxes appearing on the main pagecarriage and loco pages. For Anyone else? Can one of the administrators have a visitor seeing the page for the first timelook please? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:08, it would give them some idea what it 16 May 2017 (UTC):It was all aboutsomething I did without realising by altering parser settings while trying to convert page names to dates and vice versa. Yes, I know it It should be obviousworking again now. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:48, but16 May 2017 (UTC)::Yes fixed.Belated thanks..... --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
===On this day refresh error===Another oddity. When I first access the home page without being logged in, the "On this day" link shows May 18. As soon as I log in, it refreshes correctly. Any ideas? Is it some sort of caching issue? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC):I was getting that as well. It was caused by <nowiki>{{#time:}} using "the time the page was last rendered into HTML" rather than the current time. For some reason, it would always default to May 18, even immediately after logging out after displaying the correct date while logged in. I've changed it now to read {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} which do exactly what their names suggest.</nowiki> It seems to have solved the problem on the wiki itself, although I don't know if there may still be a caching problem for individual users. --[[User:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|SharpoGraham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:SharpoGraham Phillips 110|talk]]) 00:0956, 25 May 2017 (UTC)::I'm aware that it is still not working as it should. Editing the page also updates the displayed date, so the error doesn't show up until a day later, which makes it a slow job fixing it by trial and error. I've asked for help on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Traumjses54rw4ao Mediawiki Project Support Desk]--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 08:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC):::I think it's working now. If you want an explanation...The various Time and Date functions use the time the page was last rendered in to HTML. For a logged in user, that will be their current session, for a non-logged in user, it is the time the page was last modified, as shown at the bottom of every page. By linking to the internal On This Day page as if it was an external link, it seems to be creating the link using the real current time, even when logged out.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)::::Another minor bug fixed. As the wiki was seeing the On This Day page as an external link, it was opening in a new tab, rather than the same tab like all other internal links. I couldn't fix it properly, so the external link is now displayed as a single full stop right at the bottom of the page, I couldn't make it completely invisible. Just having the link somewhere on the page forces all dates to work correctly, so now the internal link works as it should. There's another minor bug in that the wiki is set to GMT and is not adjusting for BST. I might look in to that one at some point as well. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 07:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC):::I really think I've got it this time. What was confusing me was the random image on the Main Page Test page which was causing that page to refresh every time it was viewed, whether logged in or not, which the proper Main Page wasn't doing. I've now set up the Main Page to automatically refresh every time. I thought this might slow down loading, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What was slowing everything down was fetching nine individual images from Wikimedia Commons for the schematic map. I've now duplicated these locally, so not only does the page load a lot faster, logging in is a lot quicker as well.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 14:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)::::Thanks for spending the time on it! It would be an idea to update the pre-1963 map page to use local icons as well; it can be very hit and miss loading at times. (Not meant as a request, happy to do it myself when time permits). ::::Probably a bit late to ask this as were are closing in on 100 individual Day pages, but is there anything in them which could be better handled in a template called to each page, rather than the block of text we copy and paste each time?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC):::I'd already started on the other maps when you replied. Consider it done. Yes, now I know how easy it is to create and call a template, that would be a better way of getting the forward and back dates. I did wonder if it might be better if the links just said "Previous" and "Next" rather than the date, but that would mean going back and altering all the existing ones for consistency.--[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 16:49, 13 January 2015 2 June 2017 (UTC)
:I've thought it had been thinking the same (I just mentioned working fine, but today it is linking to June 20 when not logged in one of the forum threads), even though a page exists for June 25. I guess the main question Not sure if it is whether a coincidence, but the SVR would be happy with us using its logo - it's starting to sound like we'll need to get home page was last edited on June 20. Has anything changed in contact with the office at some point back end, apart from switching Lingo back on a few of these things. If they decide not? --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 19:58, does someone feel suitably arty?25 June 2017 (UTC)
::Another oddity with 'On this day in history'. When logged out, the next and previous page links on 'August 4' and other days works fine. When I log in they stop working, replaced by a grey box with a dash in. Not sure how long it has been happening - anyone else getting the same and if so, any idea why? --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 0914:2337, 13 January 2015 4 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Thanks - I emailed marketing@svrlive.com on 16th January to ask permission to use the official SVR logo. I haven't heard back yet, so ll keep manually updating if I've gone remember and used it anyway. If I get a threatening letter from their solicitors, I'll change nobody else beats me to it back again. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110Robin|Graham Phillips 110Robin]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110Robin|talk]]) 0705:5651, 2 February 2015 7 August 2017 (UTC)
===Pages loading incorrectly when logged out===I'm finding a few pages which aren't loading correctly when not logged in, for example [[GWR 80684 Ballast Wagon]]. It reports part of the content being not secure and is referring to something in version 1241 which was the version before the https upgrade. Happens in both Chrome and IE. It loads fine when logged in, so I assume it may be another caching issue. Did we have a back end utility for refreshing all the pages and if so, could one of the admins run it? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1117:3953, 13 January 2015 15 December 2017 (UTC)
::I was looking selected about 10 other Wagons pages at random and found these - [[BR General Goods Containers]] / [[BR 993898 'Shark' Ballast Plough Brake]] / [[GWR 125059 Covered Goods Van (body only)]]. There may be others, although I've not noticed any other than wagons pages thus far. Not a lot I can add on the internet yesterday for suitable maps & saw that very same diagnostices, except:::*IE shows a text only page, then thought I would do and it includes a tracing line saying for example ''<nowiki>Retrieved from a map ‘http://www.svrwiki.com/version1241/index.php?title=BR_General_Goods_Containers& then create my own simple map from that oldid=8055’</nowiki>''. Clicking the link takes you to the old page on the non- then scan & upload itsecure site. It was then I realised I was spending time on this instead of doing other things!! In answer to your question, I don't know how to edit that template to how you want italso shows a box at the bottom "Only secure content displayed." ::*Chrome does the same but without the pop up box. May be better to draw a new version? ::--[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1122:00, 14 January 2015 16 December 2017 (UTC)
:::I think get the main issue same text-only page displayed as you get with IE. The fact they're still showing like that at least means that my attempted fixes so far didn't work! The "retrieved from" is that apparently not the error itself - the text is usually hidden by the page style, and the fact the page isn't loading the map requires a standard set of images style (about 3000!or any pictures) is why that exist on Wikipediaoccurs. I've reset some more of the cache settings, which you can tile together seems to show the layout (e.g. plain track, station, disused station, and so on), as well as all the templates have fixed it pulls in. It might be possible to copy it over, but I don't know if it would be a good idea to pick and choose the bits we want, or alternatively to copy the whole lot over with a lot understand some of redundant bitsthis dark voodoo... --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 18:24, but with the flexibility to make more in future. 18 December 2017 (UTC)
===Loss of session data===In the last few weeks I've noticed that from time to time the Wiki is logging me off in mid-edit. With a normal log in, my status is changed to logged out (ie the top right button reverts to 'Log in') and of course I can't save the page. If I have selected "stay logged in" when logging in, the top right button is still showing 'Log out' but I get the message ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. You might have been logged out.'' Abandoning the edit and restarting it then works fine without actually needing to log out and in again. Is there anything unusual happening at the server back end?--[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1216:1520, 14 January 2015 9 September 2018 (UTC)
===Service Unavailable message===While I remember years ago using some free software that allowed me to add links 'm in the Bug reports page, I'm seeing a message from a word or words pasted into an image on my site. There may be something similar for a wiki if you have time to try & search for it. This was the sort of thing I just found after a search, but not within a wiki - httptime as follows://www.onextrapixel.com/examples/image-map/
::If you decide to have there was a picture 'like' button on here, I'd press it! I'm not sure about other functions for it to carry out. Most of the front pagebot edits I come across on Wikipedia tend to be formatting and housekeeping, things like stripping leading and trailing spaces in tables, keep it interesting changing links and references separated by changing it every week<nowiki><br></nowiki> to bullet format and so on. Not a particular priority here in my view. OtherwiseOne of them moves references after closing punctuation, once this wiki nears completion which would cause a problem on here because of our formatting issue (if that see my [[User:Robin|user page]]), which I think is ever likely to happencaused by the conflict with the terminology add-on (whose name I forget) people aren. Presumably we haven't likely to look at it very often. got anywhere with resolving that one? --[[User:SharpoRobin|SharpoRobin]] ([[User talk:SharpoRobin|talk]]) 1314:4610, 31 January 2015 10 October 2017 (UTC)
:My 10p worth :: The addon in question is so long as you think "Lingo". I remember hoping/expecting the software update earlier this year would fix it. However, it is an improvementdidn't, carry on and add/edit as necessary which is at the idea of time I did put in a Wiki; stopping for votes just delays thingsreport about the issue still being present. Worth adding a note in Looking back at the summary if comment is requiredbug report, eg if I had a better logo (which I don’t!) I would upload it and say “shall we try this instead?”there's been no response or fix yet.--[[User:RobinDanny252|RobinDanny252]] ([[User talk:RobinDanny252|talk]]) 1708:3238, 31 January 2015 12 October 2017 (UTC)
== Mobile view ==: What Idon've t think this has cropped up before. I have just noticed that Navboxes do not yet worked out appear in Mobile view. This is whether the copyright is (or at least can be) "extended" if the work is sold to someone else - if I buy apparently deliberate, as detailed in [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124168 this article]. In most cases they are probably a collection of old photos, do I get any rights, or is it still all linked 'nice to the original author (unless they specifically give some permission/waiver)? Equally, Ihave'm not sure if digitising a piece of work is ever able rather than essential to extend copyright (e.g. if I scan an old photonavigation, do I get rights over but in [[The Severn Valley Railway in preservation]] they are currently the scan only method of somebody else's work?)navigating to other history pages. If neither of those apply, then it's 70 years from It should be possible to create the production same links in a table instead of a Navbox which may be the work ''if the author is not known''answer in that instance. Something to bear in mind as we create future pages, particularly as mobile devices are increasingly used for browsing. Any thoughts or 70 years after their death if it is suggestions welcome. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] (so for an 1868 photo[[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:03, the author would 13 April 2018 (UTC)::Update; I duly added a table rather than a Navbox which works OK in Mobile view. We just have had to survive until 1946)remember to update that table at the same time as updating the Template:TimelineNavbox. --[[User:Danny252Robin|Danny252Robin]] ([[User talk:Danny252Robin|talk]]) 1622:3035, 30 January 2016 31 December 2019 (UTC)
::Regarding whether you can extend copyright by digitising a piece of Something else I found that appears not to work, the Ordnance Survey relinquishes crown copyright after 50 years as per the link I posted in Mobile view. The [[Tips Unsuccessful proposals for contributing to railways in the SVR Wiki#Ordnance Survey Maps / Crown Copyright | hereSevern Valley]]. However page has a statement <nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki> to limit the National Library number of Scotland claims copyright over their scans items in the table of OS maps which are older than thatcontents. The level 3 headings should be suppressed but appear in Mobile view. Not a major issue, hence it appears you can do so (and I have updated all the OS extracts accordingly).but annoying!--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1722:3235, 12 July 2016 31 December 2019 (UTC) ==Changes needed please==A section ::Problem solved, thanks to note any amendments needed on this page for help from the attention of the administratorsMediawiki Project:Suport Desk --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 22:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC):::Thanks. Suggest I see in their response that we delete items when done to keep the list current.'re due a MediaWiki version update - good luck! --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 23:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
== Article/page count Featured article ==
I've removed the line in the introduction that gave the current number ll be busy for much of articles/images on the wiki. I had recently noticed the main page was taking much longer to access than any other page, and that other pages would not load until the main page was loadednext few weeks with moving, implying it was somehow locking up a large number of resources. Removing the page/image countshoneymoon, which were probably reand whatever else I've forgotten -counted each time the page was opened, appears if someone else wants to have significantly improved the speed! I suspect this is a combination of the actual article counting process being slow go at doing featured articles for some reasona few weeks, as well as the main page having to be generated from scratch each time it was viewed (in case the counts had changed) which is quite a slow process... feel free! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 0810:4743, 12 July 2016 29 May 2018 (UTC):Does seem quicker - no great loss not having Best of luck with everything! An open invitation at any time for anyone to pick an article they would like to feature, either by adding it themselves or by letting me know and I'll add it. There is a [[:Category:Featured articles|Category page]] which lists the informationarticles already featured. If nobody else does choose an article, I'll try to keep updating them on a weekly basis. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1715:3213, 12 July 2016 29 May 2018 (UTC)
I've applied created a copy of Graham's original schematic map changing "Eardington Halt (Disused)" to "Eardington" (the [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license], the same name as is consistently used on Wikipedia - this license does not apply if a different license is specified (e.g. uploaded imagesin SVR gala publications etc). If you I don't have the correct font to add any complaintsnew text, speak now, or forever hold your peace! --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 22:34, 19 November 2016 ie "(UTCLimited use) :No complaints", but could you tweak the site settings to include the CC I think on balance it's better as changed. The station icon is still in 'disused' colour which suggests something different and the linked page gives the button operational status. I might have a go at creating a completely new file at some point with the foot of the page where currently is just shows 'Creative'. Found [https://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&jurisdiction=&version=3.0&lang=en additional text, unless Graham happens to read this page of instructions] which may helpand gets there first. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 1609:4558, 24 November 2016 (UTC) ::Like so? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 21:04, 24 November 2016 April 2024 (UTC) :::That looks better, thanks!--On the [[User:Robin|RobinList of stations]] page I've minor edited the schematic to remove '([[User talk:Robin|talk]]disused) 21:11, 24 November 2016 ' and change the icon colour for the station (UTClook on the 'changes' to see what changes I made) == SVR photographic guide == This comes up periodically. There is no published guide of publicly available photo locations. There is an old thread at http://railways.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-photo-guide.5590/page-2 with quite a lot of info and a thread around Pacific Power. How this might help I'm not a photographer but a guide would be useful. It would need some thought thoughsure, so as initial suggestions what it might include:Work north to SouthLocation nameGPSOS referenceMeans of accessParticular restrictionsTips - better in the afternoon than morning type thingExample photo Also that page doesn't use a does and don'ts section (trespass etc.) Thoughtspng file?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 1022:5522, 19 December 2016 26 April 2024 (UTC)::Helps greatly thanks - Ihadn'd erred away from doing one in t realised how Graham created the past, in case the SVR considered it to be encouraging people to photograph from lineside (even in legitimate viewing locations) rather than paying to visit the railwayoriginal . However the SVR itself gave a number of possible viewing locations for Pacific Power, so maybe not considered an issue? If we do add one, your suggestions would be a good startpng file until now.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 15:59, 29 December 2016 I've added '(UTCLimited use) Official response from Lewis Maddox: "Great idea, if you need any photos let me know." So, going back to the original post, what's which is in the best way of setting it up? Does it need correct font and created a table with the headings I suggestednew . Is there a better way? This might be one where png file from a little thought and input from photographers is worthwhile...--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 13:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC) :Just while thinking about itscreen grab, on tweaking the [[Current events on size to match the Severn Valley Railway]] page, original. I put a comment relating to SVR Live that "Information which is publicly accessible for enthusiasts includes Traffic Notices, Working Timetables, could use other wording such as 'Galas only'rather than 'lineside photography policy and application formsLimited use''', and so on." However I can't see photography policy on the new version, or on the SVR website eitherif preferred. Any idea where they would be found these days?--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC) ::When I looked earlier this year, the lineside photography information available on the old site seemed to be horribly out of date, and upon enquiring directly with the SVR on Facebook, the response I got gave me the impression they were only interested in direct inquiries, rather than advertising it online? --[[User:Danny252|Danny252]] ([[User talk:Danny252|talk]]) 09:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC) :In terms of setting it up, the unofficial WSR site WSR.ORG.UK has a photography section [http://www.wsr.org.uk/r-photters.htm here]. There may be some good ideas to be had from it.--[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC) ::Thank you. A job for when I have some time :)--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC) ==Locomotives hired to or visiting other railways==We have sections for locos coming in11, are there equivalents for SVR-resident locos going the other way? I can't find any. TIA--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 12:28, 18 January 2017 April 2024 (UTC)