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From 1949 to 1953 is a a drop in fares. Are they both like-for-like single (or return) please?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 17:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 
From 1949 to 1953 is a a drop in fares. Are they both like-for-like single (or return) please?--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 17:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 
:I've scanned the relevant pages from 'Passenger Train Facilities, 1954' and uploaded them along with scans of 'Passenger Services, 1958' to https://postimg.cc/gallery/MSJHqBJ to compare with similar documents on Timetable World. I can find mention online of significant increases in fares immediately after the war to discourage non-essential leisure travel, but no mention of a decrease in the '50s, although that does seem to be the case. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 21:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 
:I've scanned the relevant pages from 'Passenger Train Facilities, 1954' and uploaded them along with scans of 'Passenger Services, 1958' to https://postimg.cc/gallery/MSJHqBJ to compare with similar documents on Timetable World. I can find mention online of significant increases in fares immediately after the war to discourage non-essential leisure travel, but no mention of a decrease in the '50s, although that does seem to be the case. --[[User:Graham Phillips 110|Graham Phillips 110]] ([[User talk:Graham Phillips 110|talk]]) 21:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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::There was a [https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=1952-06-16a.780.3 comment in Hansard in 1952], "Under the (British Transport) Commission's Passenger Charges Scheme in relation to British Railways, ordinary fares on the basis of 1.75d. per mile have replaced ordinary fares on the basis of 2.44d. per mile." That seems to tie up roughly with the decrease in fares between 1949 and 1953/4 percentage-wise. The 3rd class single fare Paddington to Kidderminster also looks about right for 1953;  19/- at 1.75d per mile comes out at about 130 miles. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Graham. Is the 1958-59 correct in showing 3rd class, BRBritish Rail or British Railways went to second class in 1956?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 21:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

well spotted. I'd copy & pasted the paragraph and changed the fares, but not the 3rd to 2nd.--Graham Phillips 110 (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

From 1949 to 1953 is a a drop in fares. Are they both like-for-like single (or return) please?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 17:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

I've scanned the relevant pages from 'Passenger Train Facilities, 1954' and uploaded them along with scans of 'Passenger Services, 1958' to https://postimg.cc/gallery/MSJHqBJ to compare with similar documents on Timetable World. I can find mention online of significant increases in fares immediately after the war to discourage non-essential leisure travel, but no mention of a decrease in the '50s, although that does seem to be the case. --Graham Phillips 110 (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
There was a comment in Hansard in 1952, "Under the (British Transport) Commission's Passenger Charges Scheme in relation to British Railways, ordinary fares on the basis of 1.75d. per mile have replaced ordinary fares on the basis of 2.44d. per mile." That seems to tie up roughly with the decrease in fares between 1949 and 1953/4 percentage-wise. The 3rd class single fare Paddington to Kidderminster also looks about right for 1953; 19/- at 1.75d per mile comes out at about 130 miles. --Robin (talk) 10:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)