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I’m a complete ignoramus on the subject and so am posting it here for others to take forward, if relevant. I saw on [https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/steam-era-route-availability-categories.1420000/#post-2687309 Nat Pres] a thread which touches on the origins of [[GWR Power and Weight Classification#After_nationalisation| route availability after nationalisation]], which states: “..in 1940, the Civil Engineer's Department of the LNER Southern Area (ex-GN/GC/GE lines) devised a system of Route Availability (RA) classes. This was in a situation where WW2 was requiring engines to be assessed for use on lines outside their traditional areas [..] The initiative was successful and was extended in 1947 to the whole of the LNER, with the RA number henceforth being shown on locos [..] BR decided in due course to adopt the LNER system, although I'm not sure that it became network-wide before the 1970s.” It's not referenced, but there's a [https://www.devboats.co.uk/gwdrawings/weightrestrictions.php link].--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 
I’m a complete ignoramus on the subject and so am posting it here for others to take forward, if relevant. I saw on [https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/steam-era-route-availability-categories.1420000/#post-2687309 Nat Pres] a thread which touches on the origins of [[GWR Power and Weight Classification#After_nationalisation| route availability after nationalisation]], which states: “..in 1940, the Civil Engineer's Department of the LNER Southern Area (ex-GN/GC/GE lines) devised a system of Route Availability (RA) classes. This was in a situation where WW2 was requiring engines to be assessed for use on lines outside their traditional areas [..] The initiative was successful and was extended in 1947 to the whole of the LNER, with the RA number henceforth being shown on locos [..] BR decided in due course to adopt the LNER system, although I'm not sure that it became network-wide before the 1970s.” It's not referenced, but there's a [https://www.devboats.co.uk/gwdrawings/weightrestrictions.php link].--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 22:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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:I'm no expert on the subject either. I notice that the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Railway_Power_and_Weight_Classification Great Western Railway Power and Weight Classification article on Wikipedia] states that "''In 1949, BR decided to adopt the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) system of power classification for all locomotives.''" There's no citation, so I'm leaving our own article referring to it being based on the LNER system as it stands until something more definite turns up to say it's wrong. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

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I’m a complete ignoramus on the subject and so am posting it here for others to take forward, if relevant. I saw on Nat Pres a thread which touches on the origins of route availability after nationalisation, which states: “..in 1940, the Civil Engineer's Department of the LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway Southern Area (ex-GN/GC/GE lines) devised a system of Route Availability (RA) classes. This was in a situation where WW2 was requiring engines to be assessed for use on lines outside their traditional areas [..] The initiative was successful and was extended in 1947 to the whole of the LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway, with the RA number henceforth being shown on locos [..] BRBritish Rail or British Railways decided in due course to adopt the LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway system, although I'm not sure that it became network-wide before the 1970s.” It's not referenced, but there's a link.--Patrick Hearn (talk) 22:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the subject either. I notice that the Great Western Railway Power and Weight Classification article on Wikipedia states that "In 1949, BRBritish Rail or British Railways decided to adopt the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMSLondon Midland & Scottish Railway) system of power classification for all locomotives." There's no citation, so I'm leaving our own article referring to it being based on the LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway system as it stands until something more definite turns up to say it's wrong. --Robin (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)