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:Sadly not, it appears. This [https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/titfield-thunderbolt.265126/ thread on National Preservation] suggests 1456 was the second loco. The film was released in 1953 which means filming would have been in 1952, and the trivia also mention the use of Westbury crews. The BRDatabase entries for [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4801&loco=4801 1401] and [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4856&loco=4856 1456] show both locos moved to Westbury in June 1952 and stayed for around 4 months. [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4850&loco=4850 1450] was at Slough at the time. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:Sadly not, it appears. This [https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/titfield-thunderbolt.265126/ thread on National Preservation] suggests 1456 was the second loco. The film was released in 1953 which means filming would have been in 1952, and the trivia also mention the use of Westbury crews. The BRDatabase entries for [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4801&loco=4801 1401] and [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4856&loco=4856 1456] show both locos moved to Westbury in June 1952 and stayed for around 4 months. [http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=4850&loco=4850 1450] was at Slough at the time. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thanks, I did wonder--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 19:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thanks, I did wonder--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 19:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::The search for 1450 at the DFR showed it running at DFR as 1401 as part of DFR's Titfield Thunderbolt Weekend, which might be where the confusion arose--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 17:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  
 
==Early preservation history==
 
==Early preservation history==
 
Making notes here before updating the article, pending checking other sources. The [https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/1450-2/ entry in preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com] suggests 1450 worked at the Dart Valley Railway (now South Devon Railway) "...''before being sold by the DVR to Mike Little and Barry Cordell in 1991. It then spent ten years on the Dean Forest Railway before moving to the Severn Valley Railway in 2014''". Pull Push Limited was not incorporated until late 2001 and the fixed asset appeared in the first accounts at December 2002, so presumably it was privately owned from 1991 before becoming a company asset in 2002. The second sentence implies it did not move to the DFR until 2004. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 
Making notes here before updating the article, pending checking other sources. The [https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/1450-2/ entry in preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com] suggests 1450 worked at the Dart Valley Railway (now South Devon Railway) "...''before being sold by the DVR to Mike Little and Barry Cordell in 1991. It then spent ten years on the Dean Forest Railway before moving to the Severn Valley Railway in 2014''". Pull Push Limited was not incorporated until late 2001 and the fixed asset appeared in the first accounts at December 2002, so presumably it was privately owned from 1991 before becoming a company asset in 2002. The second sentence implies it did not move to the DFR until 2004. --[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 17:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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:That website freely copies info, and is always worth double checking (I corrected errors on its 80079 page). There's a pintrest image of 1450 at DFR in 2003 https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/549791066982426604/. Unrelated, the same search showed an accident at the DFR in 2007 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/547c902bed915d4c0d000193/R142008_080702_Lydney.pdf--[[User:Patrick Hearn|Patrick Hearn]] ([[User talk:Patrick Hearn|talk]]) 17:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Titfield Thunderbolt?

"The role of the pre-accident locomotive #1401 was played by two separate 14XX locomotives, facing in opposite directions to allow as much filming as possible. #1401 starred as herself while #1450 masqueraded as her sister with identical number-plates. Though #1401 was later scrapped, #1450 was preserved and today operates on steam railways throughout Britain" IMDB, Titfield Thuderbolt trivia. Is this true?--Patrick Hearn (talk) 11:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Sadly not, it appears. This thread on National Preservation suggests 1456 was the second loco. The film was released in 1953 which means filming would have been in 1952, and the trivia also mention the use of Westbury crews. The BRDatabase entries for 1401 and 1456 show both locos moved to Westbury in June 1952 and stayed for around 4 months. 1450 was at Slough at the time. --Robin (talk) 14:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I did wonder--Patrick Hearn (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
The search for 1450 at the DFR showed it running at DFR as 1401 as part of DFR's Titfield Thunderbolt Weekend, which might be where the confusion arose--Patrick Hearn (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Early preservation history

Making notes here before updating the article, pending checking other sources. The entry in preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com suggests 1450 worked at the Dart Valley Railway (now South Devon Railway) "...before being sold by the DVR to Mike Little and BarryWoodham Brothers Scrapyard, Barry, South Wales. The source of many locomotives now in preservation. Cordell in 1991. It then spent ten years on the DeanWilliam Dean, Chief Locomotive Engineer of the Great Western Railway 1877-1902 Forest Railway before moving to the Severn Valley Railway in 2014". Pull Push Limited was not incorporated until late 2001 and the fixed asset appeared in the first accounts at December 2002, so presumably it was privately owned from 1991 before becoming a company asset in 2002. The second sentence implies it did not move to the DFR until 2004. --Robin (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

That website freely copies info, and is always worth double checking (I corrected errors on its 80079 page). There's a pintrest image of 1450 at DFR in 2003 https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/549791066982426604/. Unrelated, the same search showed an accident at the DFR in 2007 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/547c902bed915d4c0d000193/R142008_080702_Lydney.pdf--Patrick Hearn (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)