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20 ton 'Toad' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWR stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When last in SVR service it was lettered in late GWR style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU".
 
20 ton 'Toad' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWR stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When last in SVR service it was lettered in late GWR style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU".
  
It arrived on the SVR in November 1970 and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PW Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PW requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the [[The LNER Carriage Group|LNER Carriage Group]], started. Construction of a new pair of side doors, using the original ironwork is underway (Jan 2016). The layers of paint were removed from the interior, when it was found that its first, "as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stencilled opposite the guard's seat in pink lettering, with the word "CARDIFF" (presumably its first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BR) interior finish was off white (ivory) and bauxite with a white ceiling.  
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It arrived on the SVR in November 1970 and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PW Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PW requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the [[The LNER Carriage Group|LNER Carriage Group]], started. Construction of a new pair of side doors, using the original ironwork is underway (Jan 2016). The layers of paint were removed from the interior, when it was found that its first, "as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stenciled opposite the guard's seat in pink lettering, with the word "CARDIFF" (presumably its first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BR) interior finish was off white (ivory) and bauxite with a white ceiling.  
  
 
The sanding gear is currently missing, and the GWR drawing has been located. Its hard to read, and LNER Group members are preparing working drawings to enable a new set to be constructed.  
 
The sanding gear is currently missing, and the GWR drawing has been located. Its hard to read, and LNER Group members are preparing working drawings to enable a new set to be constructed.  
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It is intended to restore it to as near original condition as reasonably possible, and in GWR livery, but BR bauxite has not been ruled out as a possibility for the future.
 
It is intended to restore it to as near original condition as reasonably possible, and in GWR livery, but BR bauxite has not been ruled out as a possibility for the future.
  
17410 was preserved by a group of working members known as the"17410 Fund", but in early 2016 they transferred ownership to the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] <ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410], dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015</ref>.
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Much progress has recently been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising for materials. Much of the steelwork, the wooden floor and much of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing, whilst tyres, vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essential.
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17410 was preserved by a group of working members known as the "17410 Fund", but in early 2016 they transferred ownership to the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] <ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410], dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015</ref>.
  
 
==Sources==
 
==Sources==
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==Links==
 
==Links==
 
[http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org]<br>
 
[http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org]<br>
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[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410.html GWR TOAD 17410]
  
  

Revision as of 20:57, 30 April 2016

GWRGreat Western Railway ToadGWR telegraphic code signifying a goods brake van, which became the standard design's nickname Brake Van 17410

20 ton 'ToadGWR telegraphic code signifying a goods brake van, which became the standard design's nickname' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWRGreat Western Railway stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When last in SVRSevern Valley Railway service it was lettered in late GWRGreat Western Railway style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU".

It arrived on the SVRSevern Valley Railway in November 1970 and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PWPermanent Way Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PWPermanent Way requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the LNER Carriage Group, started. Construction of a new pair of side doors, using the original ironwork is underway (Jan 2016). The layers of paint were removed from the interior, when it was found that its first, "as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stenciled opposite the guard's seat in pink lettering, with the word "CARDIFF" (presumably its first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BRBritish Rail or British Railways) interior finish was off white (ivory) and bauxite with a white ceiling.

The sanding gear is currently missing, and the GWRGreat Western Railway drawing has been located. Its hard to read, and LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway Group members are preparing working drawings to enable a new set to be constructed.

It is intended to restore it to as near original condition as reasonably possible, and in GWRGreat Western Railway livery, but BRBritish Rail or British Railways bauxite has not been ruled out as a possibility for the future.

Much progress has recently been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising for materials. Much of the steelwork, the wooden floor and much of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing, whilst tyres, vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essential.

17410 was preserved by a group of working members known as the "17410 Fund", but in early 2016 they transferred ownership to the SVR Charitable Trust [1].

Sources

Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey
SVRSevern Valley Railway Stock Book Eighth Edition

  1. Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410, dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015

See Also

List of goods wagons

Links

17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org
GWR TOAD 17410