Difference between revisions of "GWR 17410 'Toad' 20T Goods Brake Van"
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| − | + | |construc = GWR Swindon | |
| − | 20 ton 'Toad' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWR stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When last in SVR service it was lettered in late GWR style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU". | + | |status = Under restoration |
| + | |wagno = 17410 | ||
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| + | |wagtype = Brake van | ||
| + | |telcode = Toad | ||
| + | |brakes = Vacuum fitted | ||
| + | |built = 1940 | ||
| + | |years1 = 1970 | ||
| + | |events1 = Entered preservation on SVR | ||
| + | |years2 = 2016 | ||
| + | |events2 = Restoration begun | ||
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| + | }}20 ton 'Toad' Brake Van 17410 was built at Swindon in 1940, one of a batch of 100 financed by the War Department but taken straight into GWR stock. The diagram number was AA.21, lot number 1370. It was vacuum fitted with screw couplings. When last in SVR service it was lettered in late GWR style grey livery and allocated to "Bristol RU". | ||
| + | ==History== | ||
It arrived on the SVR in November 1970, purchased by a group of working members known as the 17410 Fund, and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PW Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PW requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the [[The LNER Carriage Group|LNER Carriage Group]], started. In early 2016 the 17410 Fund transferred ownership to the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] for restoration and continued preservation on the SVR.<ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410], dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015</ref> The van is known to many on the SVR as "Don Wilcox's toad". Once restored its hoped to use it as a fitted brake van on demonstration freight trains, filming and photo charters, and for brake van rides, for which it will be most suitable. | It arrived on the SVR in November 1970, purchased by a group of working members known as the 17410 Fund, and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PW Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PW requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the [[The LNER Carriage Group|LNER Carriage Group]], started. In early 2016 the 17410 Fund transferred ownership to the [[Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust Ltd|SVR Charitable Trust]] for restoration and continued preservation on the SVR.<ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwr_toad_17410.pdf Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410], dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015</ref> The van is known to many on the SVR as "Don Wilcox's toad". Once restored its hoped to use it as a fitted brake van on demonstration freight trains, filming and photo charters, and for brake van rides, for which it will be most suitable. | ||
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Much progress has recently been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising for materials. Much of the steelwork, the entire wooden floor and most of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing. The tyres need to be turned to remove flats. Vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essential. | Much progress has recently been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising for materials. Much of the steelwork, the entire wooden floor and most of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing. The tyres need to be turned to remove flats. Vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essential. | ||
| − | + | By July 2016, the rotten steel veranda sides and underfloor platework which supported the sandboxes, vac cylinder and handbrake pedestal had been consigned to the scrapheap, plywood templates made, and prices were being sought for their replacement. By September of that year a considerable amount of (very necessary) weld repair had been carried out on the exposed section of underframe, ballast bins and bases of the supporting steelwork.<ref>[http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/svr-wagons-2016.631598/page-5 NatPres forum SVR Wagons Thread]</ref><ref>[http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410prog2016.html 17410 restoration updates on www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk]</ref> All new veranda steelwork to form both supporting framework and paneling is due to be fitted in October 2016 to replace the thoroughly rotten original. | |
To finance the restoration The SVR Charitable Trust is seeking donations and component sponsorship, both of which can be Gift Aided. A form can be accessed by clicking on the link [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/Donations_and_Gift_aid_TOAD_17410_form.pdf Donate] | To finance the restoration The SVR Charitable Trust is seeking donations and component sponsorship, both of which can be Gift Aided. A form can be accessed by clicking on the link [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/Donations_and_Gift_aid_TOAD_17410_form.pdf Donate] | ||
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| + | ==Gallery== | ||
| + | <gallery> | ||
| + | Refurbished_seat.jpg |Refurbished Guard's seat | ||
| + | Balcony_230816_small.jpg | Dismantled Balcony in September 2016 | ||
| + | 17410_veranda_new_side_door.jpg |New side door | ||
| + | </gallery> | ||
==See Also== | ==See Also== | ||
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==References== | ==References== | ||
| − | Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey<br> | + | [http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on the Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey]<br> |
SVR Stock Book Eighth Edition | SVR Stock Book Eighth Edition | ||
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==Links== | ==Links== | ||
[http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org]<br> | [http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=9641 17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org]<br> | ||
| − | [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410.html GWR Toad 17410 | + | [http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/gwrtoad17410.html GWR Toad 17410 on www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk] |
Revision as of 06:36, 26 September 2016
| GWRGreat Western Railway 17410 'ToadGWR telegraphic code signifying a goods brake van, which became the standard design's nickname' 20T Goods Brake Van | |
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 GWRGreat Western Railway ToadGWR telegraphic code signifying a goods brake van, which became the standard design's nickname Brake Van 17410 | |
| Built By | GWRGreat Western Railway Swindon |
| Status | Under restoration |
| Number | 17410 |
| History | |
| Built | 1940 |
| Type | Brake van |
| Telegraphic code | ToadGWR telegraphic code signifying a goods brake van, which became the standard design's nickname |
| Brakes | Vacuum fitted |
| 1970 | Entered preservation on SVRSevern Valley Railway |
| 2016 | Restoration begun |
Contents
History
It arrived on the SVRSevern Valley Railway in November 1970, purchased by a group of working members known as the 17410 Fund, and was restored the following year, after which it saw regular use by the PWPermanent Way Department. Following withdrawal as surplus to PWPermanent Way requirements and in very poor condition it languished in Bewdley yard, but in December 2015 its restoration, by the LNER Carriage Group, started. In early 2016 the 17410 Fund transferred ownership to the SVR Charitable Trust for restoration and continued preservation on the SVRSevern Valley Railway.[1] The van is known to many on the SVRSevern Valley Railway as "Don Wilcox's toad". Once restored its hoped to use it as a fitted brake van on demonstration freight trains, filming and photo charters, and for brake van rides, for which it will be most suitable.
A new pair of veranda side doors have been made, and replacement opening window frames are under construction. The layers of paint were removed from the interior, when it was found that its first, "as built" internal finish was scumble grained in imitation beech and cedar with a light oak ceiling. The number 17410 was stenciled opposite the guard's seat in pink lettering, with the word "CARDIFF" (presumably its first allocation) below. Its later (presumed BRBritish Rail or British Railways) interior finish was off white (ivory) and bauxite with a white ceiling.
The sanding gear is currently missing, and the GWRGreat Western Railway drawing has been located. It appears that several other groups are short of sanding gear for their Toads, and its hoped to join with them in a scheme to construct a batch.
It is intended to restore it to as near original condition as reasonably possible, and in GWRGreat Western Railway livery, but BRBritish Rail or British Railways bauxite has not been ruled out as a possibility for the future.
Much progress has recently been made on stripping the vehicle prior to restoration, the rate of which will depend on fundraising for materials. Much of the steelwork, the entire wooden floor and most of the side/end/roof planking needs replacing. The tyres need to be turned to remove flats. Vacuum cylinder, brakegear pins and bushes must be refurbished. A new stove and roof canvass will be essential.
By July 2016, the rotten steel veranda sides and underfloor platework which supported the sandboxes, vac cylinder and handbrake pedestal had been consigned to the scrapheap, plywood templates made, and prices were being sought for their replacement. By September of that year a considerable amount of (very necessary) weld repair had been carried out on the exposed section of underframe, ballast bins and bases of the supporting steelwork.[2][3] All new veranda steelwork to form both supporting framework and paneling is due to be fitted in October 2016 to replace the thoroughly rotten original.
To finance the restoration The SVRSevern Valley Railway Charitable Trust is seeking donations and component sponsorship, both of which can be Gift Aided. A form can be accessed by clicking on the link Donate
Gallery
Refurbished Guard's seat
Dismantled Balcony in September 2016
New side door
See Also
References
17410 on the Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey
SVRSevern Valley Railway Stock Book Eighth Edition
- ↑ Public Notice GWR ‘Toad’ 17410, dated 01/09/2015, accessed 10/11/2015
- ↑ NatPres forum SVR Wagons Thread
- ↑ 17410 restoration updates on www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk
Links
17410 on www.vintagecarriagestrust.org
GWR Toad 17410 on www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk
