LNER 24105 Open Third

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LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway 24105 Open Third
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LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway Open Third 24105
Built By BRCWBirmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Company for LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway
Status Under overhaul
Number 24105
Other Numbers 13317, E13317E, DE320957
Built 1936
Designed By GresleySir Nigel Gresley, Chief Mechanical Engineer (CME) of the London & North Eastern Railway 1923-1941
Diagram 186
Type TTO
Seats 46 third + 4 wheelchairs
(64 third as built)
1980 Preserved on SVRSevern Valley Railway


Wheelchair accessible area

LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway GresleySir Nigel Gresley, Chief Mechanical Engineer (CME) of the London & North Eastern Railway 1923-1941 Tourist Open Third (TTO) No 24105 was built 1936 by the Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company (BRCWBirmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Company). It seated 64 passengers in one large saloon, with an entrance vestibule at each end and two toilets at one end. Officially these carriages were meant for excursion work, but most of them seem to have quickly gravitated into general passenger service. In the early 1960s the carriage was modified to act as the control and apparatus car in a mobile control train for use in the event of war and was based at York with LNER 43600 Open Third. The modification included the blanking out of many windows and the fitting of double doors to one side.

24105 in Preservation

24105 was originally purchased for preservation by VSOEVenice Simplon Orient Express, then based at Carnforth, but arrived on the SVRSevern Valley Railway in 1982, having been swapped for LNER 4236 Gangwayed Passenger Brake . It spent many years in static use at Bewdley, in maroon livery and serving as The Erlestoke Manor Fund's sales shop. In the early 1990s ownership transferred to the LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway(SVRSevern Valley Railway) Coach Fund for restoration and traffic as a wheelchair accessible open third.

Restoration 1993 to 1997

Control Train modifications to 24105's original Diagram 186 were retained and gave access for up to four wheelchairs, (with 46 ordinary seats) via the existing double door modification and the addition of an extra half-door on the opposite side to facilitate access. A single toilet, described by a wheelchair user as "tight but manageable" completed the interior. The missing windows were reinstated and much new teak paneling fitted to the exterior. The entirely new but authentic looking interior included a new floor, ceiling and green and grey Rexinean early form of vinyl used by the LNER for wall coverings in teak coaches wall cladding. It was completed with tables, oval mirrors, coathooks, BRBritish Rail or British Railways pattern wall lamps and luggage racks. It was also equipped with fairly accurate reproductions of the GresleySir Nigel Gresley, Chief Mechanical Engineer (CME) of the London & North Eastern Railway 1923-1941 "High Backed" seats. It entered traffic early in 1998. The restoration was made possible by much commercial and private sponsorship, a large public contribution raised via sales and sponsored walks, plus substantial donations from Bewdley Round Table, The SVRSevern Valley Railway Company and the SVRSevern Valley Railway Association.

24105 was owned for many years by The LNER (SVR) Coach Fund who donated it, in March 2016 to the SVRSevern Valley Railway Charitable Trust for future safekeeping as part of the SVRSevern Valley Railway's operating carriage fleet.

2017 overhaul

A major overhaul commenced on 3 January 2017 and is expected to take 6 months. Roof board refastening has meant a complete strip-down which will be followed by rebuilding with new canvass, rainstrips and tacking covers. Also underway is the obligatory window re-sealing. A section of frame was found to be rotten due to a leaking window seal and this frame, together with some panels have been repaired. The old varnish has been removed, the woodwork restored to its original colour, sanded, linseed oiled and varnished. The windows have been removed, re-bedded in fresh mastic, and new retaining beading fitted. Internally the lighting has been improved with reproduction LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway wall lamps whilst there will be cleaning and patch replacement of Rexinean early form of vinyl used by the LNER for wall coverings in teak coaches and refurbishing of the now rather tired tables and seating. New seat frames and ends have been constructed to bring the latter up to standard. The toilet is to be remodeled to improve its ambiance, increase available space, and simplify the plumbing.

See also

List of carriages
Rolling stock currently under restoration


Railway Heritage Register Carriage Survey
. LNERLondon & North Eastern Railway (SVRSevern Valley Railway) Coach Fund


24105 on vintagecarriagestrust.org
24105 on lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk